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nice try, but you obviously haven’t read this guy’s, uh, well, he calls it poetry. "Il_riccio" <lunedin…@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
news:d4696a31.0405090000.4f9fb5ef@posting.google.com… > drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in message
<news:4f2532f6.0405070927.62890400@posting.google.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am > > consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing > > themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a > > woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to > > stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that > > he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – > > because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there > > are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only > > natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of > > normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. > > I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in > > Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal > > neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called > > himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman > > who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal > > boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day > > and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched > > at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the > > boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who > > threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two > > of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had > > the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art > > for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The > > neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as > > normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal > > relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like > > ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, > > caring and ecstasy. > > Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve > > drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of > > normal people around the globe. > > In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on > > fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too > > long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast > > crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to > > choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same > > normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel > > righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people > > choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind > > it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer > > science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their > > disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, > > arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, > > degradation and abuse. > > In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. > > It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, > > give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of > > normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal > > people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African > > relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and > > brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day > > to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a > > continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such > > reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for > > resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. > > In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, > > and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to > > ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they > > have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal > > party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing > > meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more > > than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw > > sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with > > their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who > > are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out > > their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live > > productive lives. > > This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to > > around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American > > high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status > > games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he > > doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get > > laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young > > women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from > > feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their > > boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them > > have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to > > use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually > > abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want > > to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities > > that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four > > planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is > > just off the top of my head. > > And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, > > rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people > > who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are > > evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their > > record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own > > qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal > > people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, > > rather than working together with abnormal people to create social > > covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the > > best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out > > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. > > http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket > But I need add something. > Don’t torture your brain with someone else’s pain. > The pain you suffer may be higher than the pain the people you are thinking suffer. > You don’t cut your genitals because some women get sexually offended. Correct ? > So in the same line, you don’t torture your brain.
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> >>I am currently involved in mental health treatment, > >You need it. Rotsa ruck. > take a pill then, that’s what you people do all the time anyway. too > bad you didn’t have the courage to take on life without a pill but > you’re all weak and that’s okay, however please don’t say you feel > strong because it’s the pill in your gut talking. > — > Robert Neville
Whats the difference between shyness, bereavement, grief and Mental Health. Incidentally?
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news:1aYmc.6773$nH7.948@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Panther" <pant…@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message > news:c7hh3l$3tf$0@pita.alt.net… > > Reminds me of the cartoon which showed an auditorium with a convention > > banner strung across the room stating "Welcome Normal People". There was > > one person sitting in the room. > > He/she was obviously in denial. > I was *not* 
} > > Panther
Were too <G>
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drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in news:4f2532f6.0405070927.62890400@posting.google.com: > And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, > rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people > who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are > evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their > record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own > qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal > people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, > rather than working together with abnormal people to create social > covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the > best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own.
Can you see the irony in what you just wrote?
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Lance Delacroix <la…@aol.com> wrote in message <news:empn90te3gphaanrp7e29slteod3q5g0li@4ax.com>… > On 7 May 2004 10:27:43 -0700, drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) > wrote: > >I am currently involved in mental health treatment, > You need it. Rotsa ruck.
I think that the original message was fairly intelligent. Whether the original poster needs mental health treatment or not, is at a specialist’s discretion. And he has the right to say that the "normality" path offered to people in western societies might be a bit… to say the least "funny". For example, alcoholism is somewhat institutionalized here in Spain, it’s the normal way of having fun. People drink and get killed in cars, cause driving drunk tends to be an ill fated activity. But drinking is normal, driving your car (as opposed to getting public transportation) is normal, so accidents are normal. That’s a funny normality to you! Mig
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On 7 May 2004 10:27:43 -0700, drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am >consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing >themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a >woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to >stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that >he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – >because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there >are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only >natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of >normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. >I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in >Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal >neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called >himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman >who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal >boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day >and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched >at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the >boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who >threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two >of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had >the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art >for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The >neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as >normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal >relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like >ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, >caring and ecstasy. >Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve >drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of >normal people around the globe. >In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on >fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too >long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast >crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to >choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same >normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel >righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people >choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind >it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer >science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their >disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, >arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, >degradation and abuse. >In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. >It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, >give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of >normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal >people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African >relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and >brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day >to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a >continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such >reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for >resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. >In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, >and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to >ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they >have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal >party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing >meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more >than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw >sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with >their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who >are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out >their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live >productive lives. >This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to >around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American >high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status >games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he >doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get >laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young >women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from >feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their >boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them >have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to >use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually >abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want >to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities >that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four >planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is >just off the top of my head. >And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, >rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people >who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are >evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their >record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own >qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal >people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, >rather than working together with abnormal people to create social >covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the >best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out >to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the >heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. >http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
nice poast Watch my mental breakdown as it happens. http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/ I’m posting…be very afraid. http://www.lolfun.com/flash_0603/funky_d.cfm Tank goodness for usenet to keep track of my major life events. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." –Mahatma Gandhi If anything I’ve said seems useful to you, I’m glad. If not, don’t worry. Just forget all about it. His Holiness the Dalai Lama
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in message <news:4f2532f6.0405070927.62890400@posting.google.com>… > I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am > consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing > themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a > woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to > stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that > he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – > because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there > are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only > natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of > normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. > I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in > Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal > neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called > himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman > who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal > boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day > and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched > at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the > boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who > threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two > of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had > the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art > for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The > neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as > normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal > relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like > ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, > caring and ecstasy. > Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve > drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of > normal people around the globe. > In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on > fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too > long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast > crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to > choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same > normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel > righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people > choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind > it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer > science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their > disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, > arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, > degradation and abuse. > In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. > It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, > give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of > normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal > people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African > relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and > brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day > to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a > continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such > reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for > resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. > In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, > and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to > ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they > have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal > party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing > meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more > than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw > sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with > their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who > are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out > their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live > productive lives. > This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to > around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American > high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status > games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he > doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get > laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young > women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from > feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their > boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them > have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to > use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually > abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want > to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities > that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four > planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is > just off the top of my head. > And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, > rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people > who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are > evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their > record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own > qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal > people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, > rather than working together with abnormal people to create social > covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the > best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. > http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
But I need add something. Don’t torture your brain with someone else’s pain. The pain you suffer may be higher than the pain the people you are thinking suffer. You don’t cut your genitals because some women get sexually offended. Correct ? So in the same line, you don’t torture your brain.
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It strikes me as strange we use a term like "normal" to fit what now amounts to stereotype, given how relative it is, and the way "normal" in it’s true-est sense, meaning, like the majority of people, is, at this point, variable from one city to the next…..from what i’ve seen, in the small amount of consistency there is…."normal" is no longer what the word conveys…..instead, in it’s proper application, it means "ungodly fucked up" — remove "NOSPAM" from address to reply, or wonder why your mail was returned "Bodhisattvacat" <drr0c…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4f2532f6.0405070927.62890400@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am > consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing > themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a > woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to > stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that > he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – > because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there > are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only > natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of > normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. > I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in > Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal > neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called > himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman > who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal > boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day > and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched > at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the > boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who > threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two > of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had > the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art > for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The > neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as > normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal > relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like > ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, > caring and ecstasy. > Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve > drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of > normal people around the globe. > In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on > fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too > long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast > crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to > choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same > normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel > righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people > choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind > it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer > science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their > disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, > arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, > degradation and abuse. > In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. > It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, > give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of > normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal > people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African > relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and > brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day > to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a > continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such > reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for > resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. > In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, > and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to > ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they > have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal > party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing > meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more > than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw > sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with > their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who > are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out > their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live > productive lives. > This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to > around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American > high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status > games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he > doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get > laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young > women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from > feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their > boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them > have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to > use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually > abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want > to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities > that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four > planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is > just off the top of my head. > And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, > rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people > who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are > evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their > record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own > qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal > people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, > rather than working together with abnormal people to create social > covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the > best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. > http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in message <news:4f2532f6.0405070927.62890400@posting.google.com>… > I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am > consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing > themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a > woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to > stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that > he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – > because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there > are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only > natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of > normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. > I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in > Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal > neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called > himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman > who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal > boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day > and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched > at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the > boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who > threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two > of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had > the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art > for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The > neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as > normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal > relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like > ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, > caring and ecstasy. > Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve > drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of > normal people around the globe. > In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on > fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too > long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast > crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to > choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same > normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel > righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people > choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind > it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer > science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their > disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, > arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, > degradation and abuse. > In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. > It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, > give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of > normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal > people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African > relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and > brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day > to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a > continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such > reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for > resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. > In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, > and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to > ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they > have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal > party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing > meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more > than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw > sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with > their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who > are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out > their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live > productive lives. > This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to > around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American > high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status > games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he > doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get > laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young > women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from > feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their > boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them > have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to > use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually > abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want > to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities > that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four > planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is > just off the top of my head. > And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, > rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people > who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are > evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their > record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own > qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal > people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, > rather than working together with abnormal people to create social > covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the > best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. > http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
You’re correct in everyword. Not normal is in every place of te world, wha deviates from the average standard (or from what is thougth it has to be).
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I felt bad about raping children untill I read that post, now I know that the normal people are wrong. Thank you. =)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Ms Pnoopie Pnats wrote: > On Fri, 07 May 2004 18:10:31 GMT, "Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al…@sonic.net> wrote: >>try not to make them your higher power bodhi dude … and try to get behind >>post traumatic stress disorder and healing up the broken heart … to see >>modeled what healthy might look like … >>healthy is a different word then normal … > eggactlee > eveeone, iz someone elses weirdo > Watch my mental breakdown as it happens. > http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/ > I’m posting…be very afraid. > http://www.lolfun.com/flash_0603/funky_d.cfm > Tank goodness for usenet to keep track of my major life events. > "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." > –Mahatma Gandhi > If anything I’ve said seems useful to you, I’m glad. If not, don’t worry. Just forget all about it. > His Holiness > the Dalai Lama
Hi, P. I hope you’re just dropping in to say Hi, and things are going well. …How are things? Kirby
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Robert Neville at omega-…@no-family-allowed.com got all freaky paranoid ’bout the spyware and said: > On Fri, 07 May 2004 22:43:37 +0300, Lance Delacroix <la…@aol.com> > wrote: >> On 7 May 2004 10:27:43 -0700, drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) >> wrote: >>> I am currently involved in mental health treatment, >> You need it. Rotsa ruck. > take a pill then, that’s what you people do all the time anyway. too > bad you didn’t have the courage to take on life without a pill but > you’re all weak and that’s okay, however please don’t say you feel > strong because it’s the pill in your gut talking.
I understand your pain, shithead. You’re harbouring feelings of repressed homosexuality, aren’t you? — Justin WWJD? (What Would Justin DO?)
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 18:10:31 GMT, "Alan B. Mac Farlane" <al…@sonic.net> wrote: >try not to make them your higher power bodhi dude … and try to get behind >post traumatic stress disorder and healing up the broken heart … to see >modeled what healthy might look like … >healthy is a different word then normal …
eggactlee eveeone, iz someone elses weirdo Watch my mental breakdown as it happens. http://mspoopiepants.blogspot.com/ I’m posting…be very afraid. http://www.lolfun.com/flash_0603/funky_d.cfm Tank goodness for usenet to keep track of my major life events. "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win." –Mahatma Gandhi If anything I’ve said seems useful to you, I’m glad. If not, don’t worry. Just forget all about it. His Holiness the Dalai Lama
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LETS DO THE CROSSPOST AGAIN
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try not to make them your higher power bodhi dude … and try to get behind post traumatic stress disorder and healing up the broken heart … to see modeled what healthy might look like … healthy is a different word then normal … as I understand it – normal comes from the roman root word for "square". dig it dadd – o sumbuddie luvs ya in article 4f2532f6.0405070927.62890…@posting.google.com, Bodhisattvacat at drr0c…@yahoo.com wrote on 5/7/04 10:27 AM: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am > consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing > themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a > woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to > stay out of jail."
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On 7 May 2004 10:27:43 -0700, drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote: >I am currently involved in mental health treatment,
You need it. Rotsa ruck.
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 22:43:37 +0300, Lance Delacroix <la…@aol.com> wrote: >On 7 May 2004 10:27:43 -0700, drr0c…@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) >wrote: >>I am currently involved in mental health treatment, >You need it. Rotsa ruck.
take a pill then, that’s what you people do all the time anyway. too bad you didn’t have the courage to take on life without a pill but you’re all weak and that’s okay, however please don’t say you feel strong because it’s the pill in your gut talking. — Robert Neville —-== Posted via Newsfeed.Com – Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==—- http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups —= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers – Total Privacy via Encryption =—
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Bodhisattvacat wrote: > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own.
I suppose all that depends on your own definaition of normal? But I guess the usual perception of normal is human, with all limbs and faculties in place, in good health and heterosexually inclined. Thats normal. All the rest of it is cultural, whats normal for you is abnormal for another. — Regards Lee ~~ No one is compelled to serve great causes, unless he feels fit for it. Sir Winston Churchill
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Reminds me of the cartoon which showed an auditorium with a convention banner strung across the room stating "Welcome Normal People". There was one person sitting in the room. He/she was obviously in denial. Panther "Bodhisattvacat" <drr0c…@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4f2532f6.0405070927.62890400@posting.google.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am > consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing > themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a > woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to > stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that > he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – > because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there > are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only > natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of > normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. > I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in > Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal > neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called > himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman > who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal > boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day > and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched > at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the > boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who > threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two > of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had > the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art > for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The > neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as > normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal > relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like > ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, > caring and ecstasy. > Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve > drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of > normal people around the globe. > In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on > fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too > long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast > crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to > choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same > normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel > righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people > choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind > it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer > science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their > disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, > arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, > degradation and abuse. > In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. > It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, > give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of > normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal > people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African > relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and > brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day > to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a > continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such > reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for > resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. > In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, > and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to > ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they > have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal > party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing > meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more > than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw > sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with > their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who > are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out > their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live > productive lives. > This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to > around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American > high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status > games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he > doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get > laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young > women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from > feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their > boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them > have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to > use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually > abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want > to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities > that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four > planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is > just off the top of my head. > And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, > rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people > who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are > evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their > record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own > qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal > people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, > rather than working together with abnormal people to create social > covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the > best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out > to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the > heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. > http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
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"Panther" <pant…@asarian-intl.org> wrote in message
news:c7hh3l$3tf$0@pita.alt.net… > Reminds me of the cartoon which showed an auditorium with a convention > banner strung across the room stating "Welcome Normal People". There was > one person sitting in the room. > He/she was obviously in denial.
I was *not* } – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Panther
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I am currently involved in mental health treatment, and I am consistently encountering mentally ill people and alcoholics comparing themselves unfavorably to normal people. At an AA meeting recently, a woman said, "It’s normal not to cheat on your boyfriend. It’s normal to stay out of jail." A person told me in the program I’m attending that he is trying to have a normal life, but because he’s not normal – because he has a mental illness – he has to work at it. I am sure there are many people who, thinking themselves normal, regard this as only natural. Lest they feel too smug, allow me to consider the lives of normal people and whether or not they are worth emulating. I lived for six months in late 2002 in an upper-class neighborhood in Leesburg, Virginia with a girlfriend and her kids. Out of our normal neighbors, there was a 60-something normal married man who called himself a big dog and made passes on my girlfriend; a normal woman who, in addition to her normal second husband, had five normal boyfriends; a normal man who brutally beat his normal wife every day and broke his normal son’s jaw; a normal woman who constantly screeched at her normal husband and told my girlfriend’s daughter to dump the boyfriend she loved because he was black; and a normal woman who threatened me with violence. In the entire neighborhood, it was the two of us, a 26-year-old psychotic poet and a 46-year-old artist, that had the best relationship, being compassionate to each other, making art for each other, cherishing each other and having lots of fun. The neighborhood looked at our relationship as abnormal and at theirs as normal. The logical conclusion to draw from this is that normal relationships are worthless, and only in abnormal relationships like ours is it possible to have spirit, fun, beauty, passion, excitement, caring and ecstasy. Lest my sample of normal people be biased, and lest the conclusion I’ve drawn be incorrect, allow me to speak a bit about the activities of normal people around the globe. In rural India, the normal families drench with gasoline and set on fire the young wives with whom they have displeasure. It was not too long ago that the same normal people burned widows and tolerated a vast crimial underworld that ambushed travelers, befriending them only to choke them to death and make off with their possessions. These same normal Indian people are coming to the United States right now and feel righteous enough to attack the West’s noble tradition of people choosing whom they will marry and what career they will have, nevermind it is the people in the West who chose their careers in computer science that have created the jobs they are taking – and that their disgusting tradition of arranged marriages (as my friend called them, arranged rapes) can only be, and is, sustained through gross violence, degradation and abuse. In Africa, the normal people cut off the normal young girls’ genitalia. It gets worse; for the same normal people enslave normal kids in Sudan, give vaginal fistulas to normal women in Congo, cut off the arms of normal people in Sierra Leone and rape, torture and disembowel normal people in conflicts throughout that continent. A normal African relationship consists of the man getting drunk or high all the time and brutally beating his wife, while his wife works in the fields all day to provide food for an average of seven children per family in a continent full of starvation. The normal children begotten through such reproductive practices grow up to slaughter each other, struggling for resources that their normal leaders steal to buy villas in Riviera. In Brazil, the normal policemen use sewer children for target practice, and normal ranchers kill natives just to clear the land in order to ranch on it for two years, after which it becomes unusable and they have to clear more land and kill more people. In China, the normal party officials beat people to quadruplegia for the sin of practicing meditation and force women to have abortions in case they have more than one child. In Pakistan and Afghanistan, the normal Muslims throw sulfuric acid in the faces of women if they wear makeup or argue with their husbands. In Japan, the normal families who have relatives who are mentally ill keep them locked up in their homes, never giving out their secret to anyone and denying them the treatment they need to live productive lives. This is just part of the update on what the normal people are up to around the world; but let’s also look closer to home. In the American high schools, the normal kids use and demean sex to play cheap status games with each other, with the kid who has sex with five girls he doesn’t care about considered the stud – and the girl who waits to get laid until she finds someone she loves considered a loser. The young women are under pressure from the media to hate their bodies and from feminists to hate men, to also hate sex and use it only to keep their boyfriends, then get shrewish with their boyfriends for making them have sex with them and tell their daughters that men are out there to use women for one thing only. Normal American soldiers in Iraq sexually abuse their prisoners and think that that will get the Iraquis to want to be their allies. The normal American consumes in such quantities that, had the world consumed at that rate, there would be required four planets the size of Earth to provide all the resources. And this is just off the top of my head. And throughout this, the normal people believe themselves sane, rational and responsible and claim that they are better than people who they think are abnormal. They always say that abnormal people are evil, dangerous, irresponsible, weak, criminal or insane. But their record speaks for themselves that these, in fact, are their own qualities. The use of abnormal people as scapegoats allows normal people to indulge in their nastiness and feel righteous about it, rather than working together with abnormal people to create social covenants that are intelligent, workable and humane and reflect the best designs and the best values. Being normal is not all it’s cut out to be. I think I like being abnormal. I don’t get to share in the heritage of the normal people – and can make one of my own. http://www.geocities.com/drr0cket
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If it’s anything like Yanni (sp?) I’ll pass! What’s Yanni? Just for you Caz, I will ask the realtor if there are any Yohimbe trees at any of these places I’m going to see. Tono Thank you my dear. I will come and visit and just sit by the trees munching all day 
Love from Caz..x 