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:I’ll see :if I have them again tonight and if I do I may try going down to 30 mg for :awhile, I really like to get that eight hours of sleep. Make sure you run by any med changes with your doctor first. Take care and I hope you have sweet dreams tonight 
Jackie ~*~In the darkest hours the soul is replenished and given strength to continue and endure~*~ ~ Heart Warrior Chosa ~
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But then it might be easier to go back to sleep again if you can’t remember the scary things.
I don’t’ know about that. When I was ? old and had the Mumps, I had some high fevers, and I had a nightmare that followed me for over 20 years. The worst part was, I couldn’t explain it. It was just a bunch of highs and lows. The lows were really scary and the highs were, not good, but a break from the bad parts. Every time I had a fever after that, the same nightmare came again. Now for some reason, even when I am very very sick with the flu or something, I seldom run a fever. I don’t recall having a temp over 99 F in over 15 years, and I HAVE been sick. Tono
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Hi Sasha. I just upped my dose of Celexa by 5 mgs on Friday. I haven’t been having nightmares, but I have had a lot of really off the wall dreams. I woke DH up this morning talking in my sleep saying don’t hit me, where that came from I have no idea, by the time he woke me to make sure I was okay I was dreaming about meeting up with my best friend from kindergarten….Maybe I should say that if I am having nightmares, which would explain my waking dreanched in sweat, I don’t remember them.
That’s too bad you don’t remember them, they at least have some entertainment value. I think mine would have made a great sci-fi/horror movie. But then it might be easier to go back to sleep again if you can’t remember the scary things. I’ve had this before with meds and it has always subsided as my body adjusted to the new dose.
I’m hoping this won’t go on much longer. And it is either the missed sleep or a celexa side effect that is making me a bit sleepy too, but it is not too bad, and I’m sure this will get better too. Hope you have a betternight tonight.
Thanks, Sasha – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – xo, Jess I remember some talk of nightmares on certain medications and I just had my celexa dosage raised to 40 mg, and I had some real scary nightmares last night. It was a series of five nightmares with a variation on a theme. The theme was spiders from outer space coming to take over the world by having microscopic babies that get into peoples bodies under their fingernails and then they grow and multiply inside people and you can imagine how aweful this effects them and the person eventually dies but their bodies mutate into these giant monsters. Kept waking up scared and going right back to sleep again for about half an hour until I finally woke up for goood after five and a half hours sleep. The pharmacist had warned me yesterday that two of my meds, geodon and serevent, could effect the heart and asked me if I had any heart palpitations or shortness of breath, and I’ve been taking them for a while and I hadn’t. But when I woke up after the nightmares my heart was racing funny and I was trying to catch my breath. Now of course this was because I was scared but the hypochondriac in me thinks that now I am having these side effects. Probably just the nightmares effect. I also had visual hallucinations in between one of the times I woke up. I don’t know if this was actually a dream, or the schizo part of my schizoaffective disorder acting up, the celexa, or if it was hypnogogic or hypnopompic (sp?) hallucinations (the kind associated with sleep). Or all this could be related to the fact that I did not do drugs or drink the day before after having done at least one or the other for a few weeks. It is a mystery. Anyway, just wanted to hear from other folks who have had the nightmares. Sasha "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear." -Ambrose Redmoon
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Hi Sasha. I just upped my dose of Celexa by 5 mgs on Friday. I haven’t been having nightmares, but I have had a lot of really off the wall dreams. I woke DH up this morning talking in my sleep saying don’t hit me, where that came from I have no idea, by the time he woke me to make sure I was okay I was dreaming about meeting up with my best friend from kindergarten….Maybe I should say that if I am having nightmares, which would explain my waking dreanched in sweat, I don’t remember them. I’ve had this before with meds and it has always subsided as my body adjusted to the new dose. Hope you have a betternight tonight. xo, Jess – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I remember some talk of nightmares on certain medications and I just had my celexa dosage raised to 40 mg, and I had some real scary nightmares last night. It was a series of five nightmares with a variation on a theme. The theme was spiders from outer space coming to take over the world by having microscopic babies that get into peoples bodies under their fingernails and then they grow and multiply inside people and you can imagine how aweful this effects them and the person eventually dies but their bodies mutate into these giant monsters. Kept waking up scared and going right back to sleep again for about half an hour until I finally woke up for goood after five and a half hours sleep. The pharmacist had warned me yesterday that two of my meds, geodon and serevent, could effect the heart and asked me if I had any heart palpitations or shortness of breath, and I’ve been taking them for a while and I hadn’t. But when I woke up after the nightmares my heart was racing funny and I was trying to catch my breath. Now of course this was because I was scared but the hypochondriac in me thinks that now I am having these side effects. Probably just the nightmares effect. I also had visual hallucinations in between one of the times I woke up. I don’t know if this was actually a dream, or the schizo part of my schizoaffective disorder acting up, the celexa, or if it was hypnogogic or hypnopompic (sp?) hallucinations (the kind associated with sleep). Or all this could be related to the fact that I did not do drugs or drink the day before after having done at least one or the other for a few weeks. It is a mystery. Anyway, just wanted to hear from other folks who have had the nightmares. Sasha
"Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear." -Ambrose Redmoon
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Thanks for the input. I thought it might be the celexa increase. I’ll see if I have them again tonight and if I do I may try going down to 30 mg for awhile, I really like to get that eight hours of sleep. Sasha
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – :I also had visual hallucinations in between one of the times I woke up. I :don’t know if this was actually a dream, or the schizo part of my :schizoaffective disorder acting up, the celexa, or if it was hypnogogic or :hypnopompic (sp?) hallucinations (the kind associated with sleep). Or all :this could be related to the fact that I did not do drugs or drink the day :before after having done at least one or the other for a few weeks. It is a :mystery. Anyway, just wanted to hear from other folks who have had the :nightmares. Antidepressants are know for causing very vivid dreams and/or nightmares. I`ve had vivid, intense dreaming for the first few years I was on Paxil, it seems to have subsided some over the last year or so. A few months after weaning completely on Paxil, I went through a period of horrid contemplated geting off Paxil, but it did pass. You increased your Celexa from 20mgs to 40 overnight, that is a big increase and could be the reason you are having nightmares. This should decrease as your body gets adjusts to the higher Celexa dose, or…….you could ask your doctor to drop your dose down to 30mgs, stay there a week and then wean slowly to 40mgs. I`m sure you heart was beating fast because you were having nightmares. Don`t hesitate to call your doctor for some reassurances if you feel uneasy. Take care Jackie ~*~In the darkest hours the soul is replenished and given strength to continue and endure~*~ ~ Heart Warrior Chosa ~
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:I also had visual hallucinations in between one of the times I woke up. I :don’t know if this was actually a dream, or the schizo part of my :schizoaffective disorder acting up, the celexa, or if it was hypnogogic or :hypnopompic (sp?) hallucinations (the kind associated with sleep). Or all :this could be related to the fact that I did not do drugs or drink the day :before after having done at least one or the other for a few weeks. It is a :mystery. Anyway, just wanted to hear from other folks who have had the :nightmares. Antidepressants are know for causing very vivid dreams and/or nightmares. I`ve had vivid, intense dreaming for the first few years I was on Paxil, it seems to have subsided some over the last year or so. A few months after weaning completely on Paxil, I went through a period of horrid contemplated geting off Paxil, but it did pass. You increased your Celexa from 20mgs to 40 overnight, that is a big increase and could be the reason you are having nightmares. This should decrease as your body gets adjusts to the higher Celexa dose, or…….you could ask your doctor to drop your dose down to 30mgs, stay there a week and then wean slowly to 40mgs. I`m sure you heart was beating fast because you were having nightmares. Don`t hesitate to call your doctor for some reassurances if you feel uneasy. Take care Jackie ~*~In the darkest hours the soul is replenished and given strength to continue and endure~*~ ~ Heart Warrior Chosa ~
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I remember some talk of nightmares on certain medications and I just had my celexa dosage raised to 40 mg, and I had some real scary nightmares last night. It was a series of five nightmares with a variation on a theme. The theme was spiders from outer space coming to take over the world by having microscopic babies that get into peoples bodies under their fingernails and then they grow and multiply inside people and you can imagine how aweful this effects them and the person eventually dies but their bodies mutate into these giant monsters. Kept waking up scared and going right back to sleep again for about half an hour until I finally woke up for goood after five and a half hours sleep. The pharmacist had warned me yesterday that two of my meds, geodon and serevent, could effect the heart and asked me if I had any heart palpitations or shortness of breath, and I’ve been taking them for a while and I hadn’t. But when I woke up after the nightmares my heart was racing funny and I was trying to catch my breath. Now of course this was because I was scared but the hypochondriac in me thinks that now I am having these side effects. Probably just the nightmares effect. I also had visual hallucinations in between one of the times I woke up. I don’t know if this was actually a dream, or the schizo part of my schizoaffective disorder acting up, the celexa, or if it was hypnogogic or hypnopompic (sp?) hallucinations (the kind associated with sleep). Or all this could be related to the fact that I did not do drugs or drink the day before after having done at least one or the other for a few weeks. It is a mystery. Anyway, just wanted to hear from other folks who have had the nightmares. Sasha
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Anne, I have news! Just a little peeling on anybody on this list and you have a normie. Sometimes the difference is great, but sometimes circumstances make it pretty near. Boyd — "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity." (Ellen Parr- author)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … This is like a worldwide post traumatic stress disorder I think this is a very important point for all of us to acknowledge. I have been talking to many normies around my building at work today, and I have been surprised at how often, when you peel back a seemingly cheerful facade, you find another devastated person who can barely concentrate on work that seems banal in contrast to recent events. Many of us have cried to each other today. -we will all get through it together in our own times and our own ways This is important, too. Welcome back, LM. xo Anne —
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I was at the University of Hawaii Hilo campus, and got up, grabbed my tooth brush and razor and wandered down the hall to the communal bathroom. 3 guys were standing there with a small portable radio. They said "The president has been shot in Dallas". These are things that never go away, but they do fade. Faster than you would think. Boyd — "The cure for boredom is curiosity. There is no cure for curiosity." (Ellen Parr- author)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – . But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? you don’t get over it you go through it-there is no other way. Pain, hurt, suffering and all the mixed feelings you have are what people who have feelings feel. This is why people in Russia and people in Brazil are crying-This is why people who have the guts and the convictions to stand behind what is right and what is true express. Without shame and without guilt. This is why our president as inarticulate as he may be starts to cry before he begins a speach on tv the other night. You cannot stop your feelings of horror and disgust and fear-but what you do with them answers those who have perpetrated this act of inhumanity and cowardice and yes it was cowardice, is what counts. We will live through the nighmare but those who are guilty will have their own to live through and all those around them to bring down upon themselves like a house of cards. even I am saying things of anger how can anyone not be angry-sad-upset. I used to have nightmares of mushroom cloud h bombs-I guess this is the new milleniums form of war nightmares for you and perhaps some others. This is like a worldwide post traumatic stress disorder-we will all get through it together in our own times and our own ways-try and not overempathise or feel guilty that you have survived-now say that over a few hundred thousand times like I do……. LM
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… This is like a worldwide post traumatic stress disorder
I think this is a very important point for all of us to acknowledge. I have been talking to many normies around my building at work today, and I have been surprised at how often, when you peel back a seemingly cheerful facade, you find another devastated person who can barely concentrate on work that seems banal in contrast to recent events. Many of us have cried to each other today. -we will all get through it together in our own times and our own ways
This is important, too. Welcome back, LM. xo Anne —
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Hi ((((((Kadie))))) If your waking with panic attacks its a little more tricky to head them off. But as soon as you start to feel the first wave of anxiety start bombarding it with thoughts of ,you will be alright, you can handle, this this to in time pass. Write out some of your fears and see how many distortions you can find in your thinking. Get busy the minute you wake or if its in the midddle of the night do some things that are quiet but soothing like reading a book. You are sensitive person and you feel things a bit more intense then say someone not predisposed to have anxiety panic. Are they having any vigils in your town. In Seattle they have set a place aside for people to go and place flowers or say a prayer or whatever. In my town there is a Vigil scheduled for tomorrow. Talk about your feelings. Sending you calming vibes (((((Kadie))))) Love, Charla ~(((AJP)))~
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have to say I expected them Tuesday night but they never came same with Wednesday night but last night I woke up 4 times from my nightmares in full blown panic attacks! I’m hoping when the shock and terror of all this wears of a little that it won’t be so bad. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? I’ve had some people say to me "Hey! Your Canadian not American why should it bother you!". Well Canadian, American, Soviet, Japanese, British, etc… doesn’t matter. it’s still horrible. I still had friends and loved ones involved. The nightmares caught me off guard because I expected them right away. Dumb thing to think! I know better. I wont go into detail on them for obvious reasons but the are no longer about elevators.Anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the panic before it starts? Thanks and Love, ~Kadie http://www.geocities.com/kadie21ca2001
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I’ve been having them too, since Tuesday night. I don’t remember any of them except part of one, two bears. For years I had nightmares of either tigers, bears or lions chasing me until I reached either the garage door or back door. I stopped having them just recently and then either last night or the night before I had one about two bears. I can’t remember anything else, but I believe I had them all those years because of PTSD. I know what happened on Tuesday brought back that kind of nightmare for me. Margrove made a lot of sense and I’m going to take his advice and TRY. Sweet dreams for you and everyone here tonight! Love, Di
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have to say I expected them Tuesday night but they never came same with Wednesday night but last night I woke up 4 times from my nightmares in full blown panic attacks! I’m hoping when the shock and terror of all this wears of a little that it won’t be so bad. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? I’ve had some people say to me "Hey! Your Canadian not American why should it bother you!". Well Canadian, American, Soviet, Japanese, British, etc… doesn’t matter. it’s still horrible. I still had friends and loved ones involved. The nightmares caught me off guard because I expected them right away. Dumb thing to think! I know better. I wont go into detail on them for obvious reasons but the are no longer about elevators.Anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the panic before it starts? Thanks and Love, ~Kadie http://www.geocities.com/kadie21ca2001
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This is a great explanation. Thank you!!! I’m glad to see you here. :-) Di
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – . But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? you don’t get over it you go through it-there is no other way. Pain, hurt, suffering and all the mixed feelings you have are what people who have feelings feel. This is why people in Russia and people in Brazil are crying-This is why people who have the guts and the convictions to stand behind what is right and what is true express. Without shame and without guilt. This is why our president as inarticulate as he may be starts to cry before he begins a speach on tv the other night. You cannot stop your feelings of horror and disgust and fear-but what you do with them answers those who have perpetrated this act of inhumanity and cowardice and yes it was cowardice, is what counts. We will live through the nighmare but those who are guilty will have their own to live through and all those around them to bring down upon themselves like a house of cards. even I am saying things of anger how can anyone not be angry-sad-upset. I used to have nightmares of mushroom cloud h bombs-I guess this is the new milleniums form of war nightmares for you and perhaps some others. This is like a worldwide post traumatic stress disorder-we will all get through it together in our own times and our own ways-try and not overempathise or feel guilty that you have survived-now say that over a few hundred thousand times like I do……. LM
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thank you guys so much! — ~Kadie http://www.geocities.com/kadie21ca2001
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have to say I expected them Tuesday night but they never came same with Wednesday night but last night I woke up 4 times from my nightmares in full blown panic attacks! I’m hoping when the shock and terror of all this wears of a little that it won’t be so bad. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? I’ve had some people say to me "Hey! Your Canadian not American why should it bother you!". Well Canadian, American, Soviet, Japanese, British, etc… doesn’t matter. it’s still horrible. I still had friends and loved ones involved. The nightmares caught me off guard because I expected them right away. Dumb thing to think! I know better. I wont go into detail on them for obvious reasons but the are no longer about elevators.Anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the panic before it starts? Thanks and Love, ~Kadie http://www.geocities.com/kadie21ca2001
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. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy?
you don’t get over it you go through it-there is no other way. Pain, hurt, suffering and all the mixed feelings you have are what people who have feelings feel. This is why people in Russia and people in Brazil are crying-This is why people who have the guts and the convictions to stand behind what is right and what is true express. Without shame and without guilt. This is why our president as inarticulate as he may be starts to cry before he begins a speach on tv the other night. You cannot stop your feelings of horror and disgust and fear-but what you do with them answers those who have perpetrated this act of inhumanity and cowardice and yes it was cowardice, is what counts. We will live through the nighmare but those who are guilty will have their own to live through and all those around them to bring down upon themselves like a house of cards. even I am saying things of anger how can anyone not be angry-sad-upset. I used to have nightmares of mushroom cloud h bombs-I guess this is the new milleniums form of war nightmares for you and perhaps some others. This is like a worldwide post traumatic stress disorder-we will all get through it together in our own times and our own ways-try and not overempathise or feel guilty that you have survived-now say that over a few hundred thousand times like I do……. LM
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Dear Kadie, I agree wholeheartedly with Jackie. The best thing you can do for yourself is to do something you enjoy. It’s OK to laugh and have some fun. Go out and get a good chick flick or a funny video and watch that before you go to bed. Get into a good book. Go out and visit someone who has little children….that’s one of the best ways I know of getting back to normal…be around as many kids as you can. This is a bad time for all of us, no matter where you live, and we ALL were caught off guard….personally, I can’t wait until they get back to regular programming on TV. Does that make me meanhearted and shallow? I don’t think so, but until then I’m watching as little news TV as possible. Be gentle with yourself and take care of yourself….time will ease the pain "if" you don’t keep feeding it. That’s my just my two cent’s worth…. Love, Rita
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have to say I expected them Tuesday night but they never came same with Wednesday night but last night I woke up 4 times from my nightmares in full blown panic attacks! I’m hoping when the shock and terror of all this wears of a little that it won’t be so bad. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? I’ve had some people say to me "Hey! Your Canadian not American why should it bother you!". Well Canadian, American, Soviet, Japanese, British, etc… doesn’t matter. it’s still horrible. I still had friends and loved ones involved. The nightmares caught me off guard because I expected them right away. Dumb thing to think! I know better. I wont go into detail on them for obvious reasons but the are no longer about elevators.Anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the panic before it starts? Thanks and Love, ~Kadie http://www.geocities.com/kadie21ca2001
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Kadie wrote….. I have to say I expected them Tuesday night but they never came same with Wednesday night but last night I woke up 4 times from my nightmares in full blown panic attacks! I’m hoping when the shock and terror of all this wears of a little that it won’t be so bad. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? I’ve had some people say to me "Hey! Your Canadian not American why should it bother you!". Well Canadian, American, Soviet, Japanese, British, etc… doesn’t matter. it’s still horrible. I still had friends and loved ones involved. The nightmares caught me off guard because I expected them right away. Dumb thing to think! I know better. I wont go into detail on them for obvious reasons but the are no longer about elevators.Anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the panic before it starts?
Dear Kadie, Nightmares are a common symptom of the stress we are all dealing with right now……this too shall pass. What might help is to limit the time you listen to the news on the radio and TV. My mood is much lighter when I limit how much news I listen too. Also….try not to watch the news right before going to bed. If you are like me, you might be very suggestible which can influence your dreams. Try to do some things during the day that "can" be enjoyable, watch a movie, of Swedish meatballs last night and it was something to look foward too The person that told you that this tragedy shouldn`t bother you, don`t listen to them, the whole world is grieving and scared right now. Take care and hopefully sweet dreams tonight. Jackie ~*~In the hour of adversity be not without hope. For crystal rain
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I have to say I expected them Tuesday night but they never came same with Wednesday night but last night I woke up 4 times from my nightmares in full blown panic attacks! I’m hoping when the shock and terror of all this wears of a little that it won’t be so bad. But how do you get over this kind of a tragedy? I’ve had some people say to me "Hey! Your Canadian not American why should it bother you!". Well Canadian, American, Soviet, Japanese, British, etc… doesn’t matter. it’s still horrible. I still had friends and loved ones involved. The nightmares caught me off guard because I expected them right away. Dumb thing to think! I know better. I wont go into detail on them for obvious reasons but the are no longer about elevators.Anyone have any suggestions on how to stop the panic before it starts? Thanks and Love, ~Kadie http://www.geocities.com/kadie21ca2001
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