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::Psychologists involved with cognitive and behavioural models of Panic ::Disorder (PD) believe it’s origin is in *catastrophic* thinking. Is it possible it originates in abuse that then feeds distrust?
Absolutely. But we’re speaking about a different disorder then. Not Panic Disorder, but Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which may well include panic attacks. Meds can be taken but here psychodynamic therapy seems a better way to go than the cognitive-behavioural way. Philip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Not what somebody says, not what somebody wishes were true, but what is so, beyond all our opinion, constitutes the touchstone of our sanity." —Walter Lipmann
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Hmpf, A couple of things: 1. I get something similar to anxious guy: some sort of noise sensitivity. Can be loud noises: last night I shouted at myself as I carelessly tipped some sloppy stuff on my floor, and the shout sort of stayed there in my head and got me all worried for a while. But it could be the unexpected click of someone’s retractable biro, a loud conversation breaking in, a moped exhaust. It’s not that far off from visual effects sparking off some severe anxiousness. It freaks me out because it makes me think of voices in heads and going mad. Anxious guy, you’re not alone. 2. I haven’t had any serious PAs for about two or three years. I get awful anxious and uncomfortable and get all the irreality (no longer goes on for days) dizziness, leg wobbles, but most of my symptoms area of a sort of dragged out low level always there anxiety. Planes are out (not been home to see my mum for 3 years 
) and eating out- even alone- particuarly gets me. Any hard to escape from situation. (BTW: I was inspired by ASAP to have a go at lifts the other day and I did four in one day! Thanks) Anyway my question for Philip is if he can give me a lead on this PTSD. Hey, is it ok to have PTSD and still hang around with you PDers? Any recent threads to reread or wwws? I’ve had a look at the links from the FAQ, but didn’t pick up on this one. Thanks, Half. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::Psychologists involved with cognitive and behavioural models of Panic ::Disorder (PD) believe it’s origin is in *catastrophic* thinking. Is it possible it originates in abuse that then feeds distrust? Absolutely. But we’re speaking about a different disorder then. Not Panic Disorder, but Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which may well include panic attacks. Meds can be taken but here psychodynamic therapy seems a better way to go than the cognitive-behavioural way. Philip
– Half-me, half-biscuit.
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::Psychologists involved with cognitive and behavioural models of Panic ::Disorder (PD) believe it’s origin is in *catastrophic* thinking. Is it possible it originates in abuse that then feeds distrust? "Not what somebody says, not what somebody wishes were true, but what is so, beyond all our opinion, constitutes the touchstone of our sanity." —Walter Lipmann
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seem to be triggered by insignificant events such as phone rings or entering a familiar room. my heart races blood pressure increases and breathing is hard. therapists suggest these episodes are caused by thoughts. i`m not sure i understand or believe this. also took medicines that made me feel apathetic and lazy but did reduce anxiety. any suggestions?
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seem to be triggered by insignificant events such as phone rings or entering a familiar room. my heart races blood pressure increases and breathing is hard. therapists suggest these episodes are caused by thoughts. i`m not sure i understand or believe this. also took medicines that made me feel apathetic and lazy but did reduce anxiety. any suggestions?
I’m not sure whether your PA’s are actually *triggered* by the phone or the room or that these things just happen to coincide with an Out Of The Blue Panic Attack (or OOTB-PA as the lovely Internet abbr. has it 
) Psychologists involved with cognitive and behavioural models of Panic Disorder (PD) believe it’s origin is in *catastrophic* thinking. There seems to be more truth in the biological model which has it that PD is an (often genetic) physiological disorder involving neurotransmitters. For treatment practice one can easily combine the best of both worlds by taking meds and doing Cognitive Behavioural Therapy (CBT). What meds did you take? Philip
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