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I could go and on and on but *something* tells me I’d better stop here.
That *something* might be the sound of screams from ASAP: "Pedant Alert!!!!" :-) Love, Anne (fellow word maven) PS: Philip, I can’t get over how utterly fluent you are in English, idiomatic and otherwise. No nuance is lost on you!
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Thank you for all of the excellent information. Now I have a better understanding of the cause(s) of PD. It appears that each individual has a similar but variant situation. Sandybob
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My former physician, who has a sub-specialty in mental disorders, told me that, based on recent research, the panic disorder (not to include anxiety disorder) is actually a physical condition caused by the voluntary and involuntary nervous systems being too closely intertwined. If this is true, I wonder if it is genetic. My father and sister have also been afflicted w/PD. My Dad was a decorated vet in WW2. Previously, I thought that his condition was due to wartime experiences. Does anyone have a take on these possibilities? Is there disagreement in the medical community?
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I could go and on and on but *something* tells me I’d better stop here. That *something* might be the sound of screams from ASAP: "Pedant Alert!!!!" :-)
LOL! I need a better PR agent 
) Love, Anne (fellow word maven) PS: Philip, I can’t get over how utterly fluent you are in English, idiomatic and otherwise. No nuance is lost on you!
I *adore* flattery ) (((((((((((((Anne))))))))))) P.
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My former physician, who has a sub-specialty in mental disorders, told me that, based on recent research, the panic disorder (not to include anxiety disorder) is actually a physical condition caused by the voluntary and involuntary nervous systems being too closely intertwined.
I wouldn’t put it quite like that but at least some PD is of biological origin. Other PD’s are triggered by psychological problems, are substance-induced etc. In both cases living with PD is a psychological problem and that’s where CBT comes in. If this is true, I wonder if it is genetic.
Yes, if often is. There has been promising research going on lately, mainly in Canada and Spain. The studies of identical twins are also interesting in this context. My father and sister have also been afflicted w/PD.
There you are. It runs in your family. It often does (but by no means always) My Dad was a decorated vet in WW2. Previously, I thought that his condition was due to wartime experiences. Does anyone have a take on these possibilities? Is there disagreement in the medical community?
Your father’s disorder (probably PTSD – Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, closely related to PD and often also involving panic attacks among other symptoms) is probably a combination of latent PD and traumatic experiences with triggered it (not everybody with those same experiences develops PD which leads to the conclusion that there must have been some predisposition in those who do). I am not in the medical community but I believe that these days it is generally accepted that PD’s can be either biological/genetic or psychological in origin or both. Philip
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My former physician, who has a sub-specialty in mental disorders, told me that, based on recent research, the panic disorder (not to include anxiety disorder) is actually a physical condition caused by the voluntary and involuntary nervous systems being too closely intertwined. I wouldn’t put it quite like that but at least some PD is of biological origin. Other PD’s are triggered by psychological problems, are substance-induced etc. In both cases living with PD is a psychological problem and that’s where CBT comes in. If this is true, I wonder if it is genetic. Yes, if often is. There has been promising research going on lately, mainly in Canada and Spain. The studies of identical twins are also interesting in this context. My father and sister have also been afflicted w/PD. There you are. It runs in your family. It often does (but by no means always) My Dad was a decorated vet in WW2. Previously, I thought that his condition was due to wartime experiences. Does anyone have a take on these possibilities? Is there disagreement in the medical community? Your father’s disorder (probably PTSD – Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, closely related to PD and often also involving panic attacks among other symptoms) is probably a combination of latent PD and traumatic experiences with triggered it (not everybody with those same experiences develops PD which leads to the conclusion that there must have been some predisposition in those who do). I am not in the medical community but I believe that these days it is generally accepted that PD’s can be either biological/genetic or psychological in origin or both. Philip
Philip, you took the words right out of my mouth, only you said it ~Rita ;-)
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My former physician, who has a sub-specialty in mental disorders, told me that, based on recent research, the panic disorder (not to include anxiety disorder) is actually a physical condition caused by the voluntary and involuntary nervous systems being too closely intertwined. I wouldn’t put it quite like that but at least some PD is of biological origin. Other PD’s are triggered by psychological problems, are substance-induced etc. In both cases living with PD is a psychological problem and that’s where CBT comes in. If this is true, I wonder if it is genetic. Yes, if often is. There has been promising research going on lately, mainly in Canada and Spain. The studies of identical twins are also interesting in this context. My father and sister have also been afflicted w/PD. There you are. It runs in your family. It often does (but by no means always) My Dad was a decorated vet in WW2. Previously, I thought that his condition was due to wartime experiences. Does anyone have a take on these possibilities? Is there disagreement in the medical community? Your father’s disorder (probably PTSD – Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, closely related to PD and often also involving panic attacks among other symptoms) is probably a combination of latent PD and traumatic experiences with triggered it (not everybody with those same experiences develops PD which leads to the conclusion that there must have been some predisposition in those who do). I am not in the medical community but I believe that these days it is generally accepted that PD’s can be either biological/genetic or psychological in origin or both. Philip Philip, you took the words right out of my mouth, only you said it ~Rita ;-)
That is a *contradictio in terminis*: as you say I took the words right out of your mouth I could never have said it better than you unless: 1. the sound of my voice would have been better than yours which is not relevant here because we’re writing here and not speaking. or: 2. if the sequence of the words we used was changed by me for the better after having taken them from your mouth. I could go and on and on but *something* tells me I’d better stop here. Philip
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My former physician, who has a sub-specialty in mental disorders, told me that, based on recent research, the panic disorder (not to include anxiety disorder) is actually a physical condition caused by the voluntary and involuntary nervous systems being too closely intertwined. If this is true, I wonder if it is genetic. My father and sister have also been afflicted w/PD. My Dad was a decorated vet in WW2. Previously, I thought that his condition was due to wartime experiences. Does anyone have a take on these possibilities? Is there disagreement in the medical community?
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