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On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:52:43 -0700 (PDT), davidfqu…@webtv.net (David Quirk) wrote: >pot relaxes me >lessens my anxiety >increases my appetite >and gives me awesome climaxes
I appreciate the orgasm info. Maybe next time you can keep it between you and your left hand. And pot doesn’t relax me at all. It used to, but after 6 months of chronic use (9 or 10 bongs a night — yes, I think I did permanent damage), it began to make me feel like shit. Now if I use it in a social situation, I want to crawl inside myself and die. Alcohol is better, but I stutter badly when I get drunk, so it’s not an option for me. What it boils down to is God cursing me by not allowing me to self-medicate myself. Thank you, God!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -karl1…@my-deja.com wrote in message <news:8dfc15e0.0107061414.973be8f@posting.google.com>… > stiff_rid…@yahoo.com (stiff_ridges) wrote in message <news:871b1632.0107050054.26ccaf06@posting.google.com>… > > Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as > > an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell > > the truth? > I have been telling people about my SP. When you meet someone one of > the first questions they ask is what you do for a living. Since I > haven’t had any job at all in the six years since I graduated from > college I always dreaded this question. I used to simply say that I > don’t currently have a job, but that answer just doesn’t cut it. They > would often ask what my previous job was or they get to know me and > notice that I never get a job. Of course, my weirdness extends well > beyond lack of employment. My SP keeps me from doing things and going > places. I live a very odd lifestyle and this requires some > explanation. If I don’t explain it then they end up making > assumptions. They simply assume that I must be the laziest, most > unmotivated guy on earth. > I have revealed my SP to several people over the last year and so far > the responses have been quite positive. I was really worried that > they’d think I’m a nut case. I wasn’t sure whether being seen as > crazy or lazy was worse. I’ve been surprised by how many people I’ve > found with mental problems of their own. There are plenty of people > who can relate to SP because they’ve experienced mental problems of > their own or they know someone who has. One woman that I told about > my SP told me about her own battle with depression and about the panic > attacks she used to have. > I know there is a stigma attached to mental illness and there will be > some people who just won’t get it, thinking you should "just get over > it", but there is also a stigma attached to laziness or being a pot > head. Might as well go with the truth since it’s no worse than the > alternative.
Way cool Karl – one of my best friends is a woman who’s nearly blind, and she has some pretty bad physical deformities as well – she sticks out a bit to put it mildly. She knows about my Sp. A few years ago she was really down about her disability because she sticks out – everyone knows as soon as they meet her – it was starting to really shit her off. As a jesture of camaraderie, i asked her to imagine for a moment what it would be like to live with the same hassles that came with her disability – but assume that no-one else knew about it now – nobody could make allowances for her disability anymore, because they didn’t know she was disabled. She wept tears of joy that day. She realised that having a visible disability had it’s advantages.
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>GO FURTHER… >O. S. Sovik, Esq. >o…@themail.co.uk
who are you talking to> Grachman, The
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>From: stiff_rid…@yahoo.com (stiff_ridges) >Thanks Grachman – i’m going to start by telling someone at work – i’ve >already picked the target – wish me luck!
Good luck! I think it would be good to say that you are a unique person besides. Your personality isn’t shy, just your problem is. Grachman, The
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pot relaxes me lessens my anxiety increases my appetite and gives me awesome climaxes
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me too — Llama Tippin . Being God-Like Isn’t Easy. **********Contact*********** ICQ: 41543900 http://www.geocities.com/the3dpad alt.games.half-life.tfclassic . "David Quirk" <davidfqu…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:29663-3B4E7E9B-169@storefull-282.iap.bryant.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> pot relaxes me > lessens my anxiety > increases my appetite > and gives me awesome climaxes
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Psychedelics and other drugs can be useful when used in moderation. Often we are "trapped" behind a certain way of thinking and drugs can often give us little insights into how we could be. For example when I take Ecstasy (which isn’t often) suddenly I can find things to say to people, and actually want to speak to em. I’m not talking about "youre my bestest mate i love you gimme a hug" e-tard stuff, just honest open communication. It let me see that a simple change in chemicals in my brain can seemingly change my personality, even if it is for a short time. This is useful. It let me see how I can and perhaps should be. Its one of the reasons why I think medications will work for me. I have had some positive experiences already. In my case, it is, I think, largely biochemical. Don’t write off drugs completely. I understand your point however, and even those medical professionals who advocate drugs for effective metaprogramming warn that those with a disposition to, or currently suffering from, a mental illness may experience extremely negative effects, which may worsen the condition long/short term.. Al. Richard <thisemailwontw…@all.will.it> wrote in message
news:3B44828B.6070105@all.will.it… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Really you are lying to yourself as well as other people. "It’s becuase > I smoke pot". You are hiding behind a dangerous smokescreen 
Unless > you want to end up on alt.support.schizophrenia or alt.support.cancer I > suggest you change tack and sail you ship away from the drug. > How long will you hide behind it? Months, Years, till you die or are > taken away by the Aliens. You need to accept that you have a problem and > work towards solving it. > At one time in my life things were so bad that I had three choices > 1. Go totally insane and end up in a psychiatric insitution > 2. Kill myself and get better > 3. Go out and get better even if it means enduring the worst pain ever > I chose 3 and it hurt like Hell. You have added another option to the list > 4. Pretend I don’t have a problem. > But is pretending you don’t have a problem helping you? And how long > will it work before your symptoms become so bad that you’ll give up? > Richard ( He who cannot do Ascii art as good as Stiff_Ridges ) > stiff_ridges wrote: > > Today i had a revelation (been having a few lately – must be my > > stars). > > I think i know why i still smoke so much pot. It’s not > > self-medicating – it merely provides a digestable explanation as to > > why i’m weird, haven’t got a career, blah-blah etc – for other > > people. > > For me it’s all about ’cause and effect’ – my SP related failures > > don’t appear logical to other people – they don’t know about my SP. > > The same failures coming from a Pot-Head are easily understood. > > Sounds so simple. > > I still smoke pot because it’s a good explanation – it’s easier to > > explain than SP – very stock-standard explanation as to why someones a > > loser – "he’s wasted all the time" > > I have to fess up about my SP – ‘out’ myself in public. Sounds messy – > > but logical. > > Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as > > an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell > > the truth? > > Please let me know what happened – before i forget that i posted this > > question
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GO FURTHER… O. S. Sovik, Esq. o…@themail.co.uk "There was never a genius without a tincture of madness." -Aristotle
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stiff_rid…@yahoo.com (stiff_ridges) wrote in message <news:871b1632.0107050054.26ccaf06@posting.google.com>… > Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as > an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell > the truth?
I have been telling people about my SP. When you meet someone one of the first questions they ask is what you do for a living. Since I haven’t had any job at all in the six years since I graduated from college I always dreaded this question. I used to simply say that I don’t currently have a job, but that answer just doesn’t cut it. They would often ask what my previous job was or they get to know me and notice that I never get a job. Of course, my weirdness extends well beyond lack of employment. My SP keeps me from doing things and going places. I live a very odd lifestyle and this requires some explanation. If I don’t explain it then they end up making assumptions. They simply assume that I must be the laziest, most unmotivated guy on earth. I have revealed my SP to several people over the last year and so far the responses have been quite positive. I was really worried that they’d think I’m a nut case. I wasn’t sure whether being seen as crazy or lazy was worse. I’ve been surprised by how many people I’ve found with mental problems of their own. There are plenty of people who can relate to SP because they’ve experienced mental problems of their own or they know someone who has. One woman that I told about my SP told me about her own battle with depression and about the panic attacks she used to have. I know there is a stigma attached to mental illness and there will be some people who just won’t get it, thinking you should "just get over it", but there is also a stigma attached to laziness or being a pot head. Might as well go with the truth since it’s no worse than the alternative.
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>From: stiff_rid…@yahoo.com (stiff_ridges) >THEREFORE, in order to prevent this cycle – maybe i’ll just start >telling people – "i’ve got heaps of funny things going on with my >personality and thinking, (maybe because of a few mental conditions i >suffer from) – but i’m not a bad person – and hey, i don’t smoke pot!" >Doesn’t sound nice – but being considered a drug dreg ain’t >particularly nice either, and my lungs are about to pack it in anyway. >I don’t smoke pot because it feels good – it doesn’t – what it does is >provide a bogus cause for SP’s effects. Sp’s fall-guy. >I want to be honest – but i’m scared.
I think you should do this. Start by telling people you have anxiety in social situations. When I was joining a club at school, at the "interview," they asked me 3 adjectives to describe myself. The last adjective I used was "shy." They were pretty surprised and impressed with the honesty. One reason is a lot of people really are shy, just not to the point of being "socially phobic." People can relate to being scared in front of strangers. I even saw a lady on Oprah talk about her social anxieties. First of all, it’s weird that she was on Oprah. But by what she was saying, she was at least mildly SP. She never hung out with people, people at work didn’t seem to listen to her, she didnt go with groups. She wondered what the heck was wrong with her, why she didn’t have any friends. And she was worried about her son, who stayed in his room all day and didn’t have friends either. (The show was about different personality problems. I could definitely relate to this woman.) Anyways, the point is that admitting this to others can be a great help. It certainly couldn’t hurt you. But don’t forget about treatment. Grachman, The
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -grac…@aol.comNOJUNK (W.) wrote in message <news:20010706034250.23864.00001628@ng-mn1.aol.com>… > >From: stiff_rid…@yahoo.com (stiff_ridges) > >THEREFORE, in order to prevent this cycle – maybe i’ll just start > >telling people – "i’ve got heaps of funny things going on with my > >personality and thinking, (maybe because of a few mental conditions i > >suffer from) – but i’m not a bad person – and hey, i don’t smoke pot!" > >Doesn’t sound nice – but being considered a drug dreg ain’t > >particularly nice either, and my lungs are about to pack it in anyway. > >I don’t smoke pot because it feels good – it doesn’t – what it does is > >provide a bogus cause for SP’s effects. Sp’s fall-guy. > >I want to be honest – but i’m scared. > I think you should do this. Start by telling people you have anxiety in social > situations. When I was joining a club at school, at the "interview," they > asked me 3 adjectives to describe myself. The last adjective I used was "shy." > They were pretty surprised and impressed with the honesty. One reason is a > lot of people really are shy, just not to the point of being "socially phobic." > People can relate to being scared in front of strangers. > I even saw a lady on Oprah talk about her social anxieties. First of all, it’s > weird that she was on Oprah. But by what she was saying, she was at least > mildly SP. She never hung out with people, people at work didn’t seem to > listen to her, she didnt go with groups. She wondered what the heck was wrong > with her, why she didn’t have any friends. And she was worried about her son, > who stayed in his room all day and didn’t have friends either. (The show was > about different personality problems. I could definitely relate to this > woman.) > Anyways, the point is that admitting this to others can be a great help. It > certainly couldn’t hurt you. But don’t forget about treatment. > Grachman, The
Thanks Grachman – i’m going to start by telling someone at work – i’ve already picked the target – wish me luck!
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -fullmetalgro…@aol.com (FullMetalGrotus) wrote in message <news:20010705212625.25060.00002388@ng-fq1.aol.com>… > >In my natural state i’m a bit weird – diagnosed with Sp and depression > >when i was about 23 > Same here except I have never been diagnosed with anything. > >I also ponder the meaning of life, god, why are we here? etc a lot – > >i’m not particularly gullible, just opened minded. > Thinking too long and hard about those subjects will screw up your head worse > than drugs. I know from experience. Just concentrate on what you know. You’re > alive now, and some day you wont be. It might help to try to be a good person > but religious fundamentalists etc will disagree with that. > Me, I am obsessed with death and I think about it wayyyy too much! > >This overwhelming sense of i don’t fit in, i don’t belong here, i’m > >not like other people (not because i’m special or other people are bad > >- just the way ‘it’ is ) would always come over me. > Same here. Its weird how even life can almost feel normal for a while until > after a little too much interaction this fact can sink in and sometimes really > hit me. It may not be a good thing, may not even be a bad thing, its just the > way life is and its best to accept it > >Because there > >wasn’t an explanation in my mind why things were the way they were, i > >ended up becoming depressed and lonely, and eventually unmotivated > The worst part is that there isnt even an explanation. I am sure with a few > thousand dollars I can pay some so-called professional to poke around in my > brain and ask me questions I cant answer to make up some explanation and > recommend a few thousand dollars more of "treatment" but it doesnt even seem > to be worth the trouble > >Now, i’m 30, and i really want to stop smoking and get healthy again > I would also like to but I am not entirely friendless and its hard with people > stopping by on a regular basis "Hey Mr Grotus lets smoke a bowl!" > >Doesn’t sound nice – but being considered a drug dreg ain’t > >particularly nice either, and my lungs are about to pack it in anyway. > Some of my friends and acquintences know, but there is no way I could let my > family in on it. They know I am fuck-up and was a weido from the get-go, no > need to try to blame it on drugs. You are right, its not a good reputation to > be stuck with it, especially after you have sobered up. > >I don’t smoke pot because it feels good – it doesn’t – what it does is > >provide a bogus cause for SP’s effects. > It rarely makes me feel high anymore, just numbed out and it furthers the > feeling of detachment. > Also the biggest downside is how much money it costs.
Thanks Grotus – at least we’re not alone.
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But is pretending you don’t have a problem helping you? And how long will it work before your symptoms become so bad that you’ll give up? I know i’ve got a problem – and i know pot makes it worse, that’s why i want to stop – but it’s not the cause!!!!!!. I pretend it’s pot related on the outside only – on the inside i know it’s Sp and depression, and i’ve tried pills/talking about it with shrinks etc – i’m still the same. I think i’ll be pretending if i stop smoking pot, still act weird to other people (which is inevitable), but offer no explanation – bogus or real. Like Doug, i’ve told a few close friends about my SP – got some good reactions, had some bad ones too – i know mental illness carries a stigma. I also know that it’s human nature for people to make up ‘the cause’ of an observable ‘effect’, in the absence of another reasonable explanation – that’s where all our myths and legends came from. "why is there a really big river over their? because a great warrior got turned into a frog by a dreamtime spirit, drank up the sea, and spewed over there for revenge – simple! explanation provided" (that’s a real australian aboriginal legend by the way). People make up their own ‘reasons’ to explain people’s behaviour too – EFFECT – "why does stiff have morning tea/lunch on his own all the time?" REASON – "he’s anti-social, thinks he’s better than us – that’s why, he’s a wanker" WRONG – i’m non-social, and i actually like a lot of the people i work with – but i can only do it from a distance – i can’t talk, only listen EFFECT – "why does brother/son stiff have a crappy job – why didn’t he get a ‘career’?" REASON – "Brother stiff’s lazy – that’s why" WRONG – when i was at uni i worked hard – really hard – got good marks – got offered a great ‘career’ job – freaked out, ran away to hide EFFECT – "why haven’t we met your best friend stiff yet – why does he always have something else ‘on’ when you come over to visit?" REASON – "Simple – he doesn’t like us – why does stiff hate us?" WRONG – "i’m hiding at home" {this one happened a few days ago – for real!} I don’t know if i’m explaining this well – but in the absence of an alternative explanation, people fill in the gaps to explain why people act the way they do. We’ve done it for thousands of years. Over time, other people’s explanations can become self-fulfilling – i am a dreg now – but i definatley wasn’t 10 years ago. Maybe i’ll become a fascist SP sufferer and start outing everyone – like militant gay’s do sometimes Watch out poster’s – stiff’s coming to get ya with the magic cure THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE – maybe?
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>In my natural state i’m a bit weird – diagnosed with Sp and depression >when i was about 23
Same here except I have never been diagnosed with anything. >I also ponder the meaning of life, god, why are we here? etc a lot – >i’m not particularly gullible, just opened minded.
Thinking too long and hard about those subjects will screw up your head worse than drugs. I know from experience. Just concentrate on what you know. You’re alive now, and some day you wont be. It might help to try to be a good person but religious fundamentalists etc will disagree with that. Me, I am obsessed with death and I think about it wayyyy too much! >This overwhelming sense of i don’t fit in, i don’t belong here, i’m >not like other people (not because i’m special or other people are bad >- just the way ‘it’ is ) would always come over me.
Same here. Its weird how even life can almost feel normal for a while until after a little too much interaction this fact can sink in and sometimes really hit me. It may not be a good thing, may not even be a bad thing, its just the way life is and its best to accept it >Because there >wasn’t an explanation in my mind why things were the way they were, i >ended up becoming depressed and lonely, and eventually unmotivated
The worst part is that there isnt even an explanation. I am sure with a few thousand dollars I can pay some so-called professional to poke around in my brain and ask me questions I cant answer to make up some explanation and recommend a few thousand dollars more of "treatment" but it doesnt even seem to be worth the trouble >Now, i’m 30, and i really want to stop smoking and get healthy again
I would also like to but I am not entirely friendless and its hard with people stopping by on a regular basis "Hey Mr Grotus lets smoke a bowl!" >Doesn’t sound nice – but being considered a drug dreg ain’t >particularly nice either, and my lungs are about to pack it in anyway.
Some of my friends and acquintences know, but there is no way I could let my family in on it. They know I am fuck-up and was a weido from the get-go, no need to try to blame it on drugs. You are right, its not a good reputation to be stuck with it, especially after you have sobered up. >I don’t smoke pot because it feels good – it doesn’t – what it does is >provide a bogus cause for SP’s effects.
It rarely makes me feel high anymore, just numbed out and it furthers the feeling of detachment. Also the biggest downside is how much money it costs.
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Thanks comrades! I think my pot smoking goes something like this: In my natural state i’m a bit weird – diagnosed with Sp and depression when i was about 23 – but their just labels in a sense – "how fat does someone have to be before they’re obese? – how short to be a dwarf? – how eccentric to have a mental illness?" I also ponder the meaning of life, god, why are we here? etc a lot – i’m not particularly gullible, just opened minded. To put it mildly therefore, ‘I’m out there’ most of the time – but that’s me, and it’s one thing i still like about myself. In the beginning (like when i was young and didn’t smoke) – social situations -basically anything involving other people – would always make me feel totally and utterly disconnected from humanity – like i was an alien from another planet. This overwhelming sense of i don’t fit in, i don’t belong here, i’m not like other people (not because i’m special or other people are bad – just the way ‘it’ is ) would always come over me. Because there wasn’t an explanation in my mind why things were the way they were, i ended up becoming depressed and lonely, and eventually unmotivated – then i started to bong-on heavily – after i finished university and realised how yukky the workplace was. Sp and depression then, prevented me from achieving things in my life – i couldn’t bloody work, even after doing well at uni. My family and other people around me could see this – "why, after doing so well at this and that, has Stiff ended up unemployed and dregged out – what’s going on?" So, in an effort to prevent the looming inquisition into why i had become a scum bag – which wasn’t an option then – i subconsciously hatched a plot to get out of revealing who i really was (and still am). I went from recreational pot smoker to full-time overnight. Now, i’m 30, and i really want to stop smoking and get healthy again – like i was when i was young and weird. But – the same pattern will come back – if i return mentally to my natural state – i’ll be a weird ’straight’ guy again with no explanation as to why i’m ‘out there’ all the time. THEREFORE, in order to prevent this cycle – maybe i’ll just start telling people – "i’ve got heaps of funny things going on with my personality and thinking, (maybe because of a few mental conditions i suffer from) – but i’m not a bad person – and hey, i don’t smoke pot!" Doesn’t sound nice – but being considered a drug dreg ain’t particularly nice either, and my lungs are about to pack it in anyway. I don’t smoke pot because it feels good – it doesn’t – what it does is provide a bogus cause for SP’s effects. Sp’s fall-guy. I want to be honest – but i’m scared.
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On Thu, 05 Jul 2001 15:03:57 GMT, Richard <thisemailwontw…@all.will.it> wrote: >Really you are lying to yourself as well as other people. "It’s becuase >I smoke pot". You are hiding behind a dangerous smokescreen Unless >you want to end up on alt.support.schizophrenia or alt.support.cancer I >suggest you change tack and sail you ship away from the drug.
-Total exaggeration. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->How long will you hide behind it? Months, Years, till you die or are >taken away by the Aliens. You need to accept that you have a problem and >work towards solving it. >At one time in my life things were so bad that I had three choices >1. Go totally insane and end up in a psychiatric insitution >2. Kill myself and get better >3. Go out and get better even if it means enduring the worst pain ever >I chose 3 and it hurt like Hell. You have added another option to the list >4. Pretend I don’t have a problem. >But is pretending you don’t have a problem helping you? And how long >will it work before your symptoms become so bad that you’ll give up? >Richard ( He who cannot do Ascii art as good as Stiff_Ridges ) >stiff_ridges wrote: >> Today i had a revelation (been having a few lately – must be my >> stars). >> I think i know why i still smoke so much pot. It’s not >> self-medicating – it merely provides a digestable explanation as to >> why i’m weird, haven’t got a career, blah-blah etc – for other >> people. >> For me it’s all about ’cause and effect’ – my SP related failures >> don’t appear logical to other people – they don’t know about my SP. >> The same failures coming from a Pot-Head are easily understood. >> Sounds so simple. >> I still smoke pot because it’s a good explanation – it’s easier to >> explain than SP – very stock-standard explanation as to why someones a >> loser – "he’s wasted all the time" >> I have to fess up about my SP – ‘out’ myself in public. Sounds messy – >> but logical. >> Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as >> an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell >> the truth? >> Please let me know what happened – before i forget that i posted this >> question
O. S. Sovik, Esq. o…@themail.co.uk "There was never a genius without a tincture of madness." -Aristotle
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Really you are lying to yourself as well as other people. "It’s becuase I smoke pot". You are hiding behind a dangerous smokescreen Unless you want to end up on alt.support.schizophrenia or alt.support.cancer I suggest you change tack and sail you ship away from the drug. How long will you hide behind it? Months, Years, till you die or are taken away by the Aliens. You need to accept that you have a problem and work towards solving it. At one time in my life things were so bad that I had three choices 1. Go totally insane and end up in a psychiatric insitution 2. Kill myself and get better 3. Go out and get better even if it means enduring the worst pain ever I chose 3 and it hurt like Hell. You have added another option to the list 4. Pretend I don’t have a problem. But is pretending you don’t have a problem helping you? And how long will it work before your symptoms become so bad that you’ll give up? Richard ( He who cannot do Ascii art as good as Stiff_Ridges ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -stiff_ridges wrote: > Today i had a revelation (been having a few lately – must be my > stars). > I think i know why i still smoke so much pot. It’s not > self-medicating – it merely provides a digestable explanation as to > why i’m weird, haven’t got a career, blah-blah etc – for other > people. > For me it’s all about ’cause and effect’ – my SP related failures > don’t appear logical to other people – they don’t know about my SP. > The same failures coming from a Pot-Head are easily understood. > Sounds so simple. > I still smoke pot because it’s a good explanation – it’s easier to > explain than SP – very stock-standard explanation as to why someones a > loser – "he’s wasted all the time" > I have to fess up about my SP – ‘out’ myself in public. Sounds messy – > but logical. > Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as > an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell > the truth? > Please let me know what happened – before i forget that i posted this > question
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. Once it made me >completely obssessive-compulsive (I showered three times in a row to >eliminate all the evil bacteria, I cleaned up my entire room at three in the >morning and that included sorting out the contents of every drawer in a >particular order). I’ve stayed away from >pot since.
I wish smoking pot did this to me. You should see my apartment. Actually why dont you smoke some pot and come see my apartment? > But my brother, who is >also very anxious but doesn’t seem to have social phobia smokes pot all the >time. He says it calms him down. It seems to calm down everyone except me. >Actually I can take acid and stay perfectly calm, but if I smoke a little >bit of pot I completely hit the roof.
Yay acid!
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I smoke way too much pot. I am sure it aggravates the problem. I used to be able to drink to "loosen up" but that doesnt work anymore so I quit drinking. It sometimes makes me paranoid but then I just stay home and regard that as all part of the fun. At concerts, etc it can enhance the experience. I rarely use pot as an excuse for my problems even though I am sure it can be regarded as a problem in itself.
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On 5 Jul 2001 01:54:27 -0700, stiff_rid…@yahoo.com (stiff_ridges) wrote: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Today i had a revelation (been having a few lately – must be my >stars). >I think i know why i still smoke so much pot. It’s not >self-medicating – it merely provides a digestable explanation as to >why i’m weird, haven’t got a career, blah-blah etc – for other >people. >For me it’s all about ’cause and effect’ – my SP related failures >don’t appear logical to other people – they don’t know about my SP. >The same failures coming from a Pot-Head are easily understood. >Sounds so simple. >I still smoke pot because it’s a good explanation – it’s easier to >explain than SP – very stock-standard explanation as to why someones a >loser – "he’s wasted all the time" >I have to fess up about my SP – ‘out’ myself in public. Sounds messy – >but logical. >Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as >an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell >the truth? >Please let me know what happened – before i forget that i posted this >question
SR, Probably the real reason you smoke pot heavily is because it’s an escape from sp for a few hours. It’s a dangerous game to play though because you can easily get to where you have to have ever more pot or booze or whatever to self medicate. I’ve been down that road and it was extremely difficult to get off the self medication once it took control of me. You could end up with two major problems – sp and substance abuse. Re. telling people whether you have sp, I do it sometimes, but I’m careful about who I tell it to. Don’t kid yourself. Mental illness still carries a stigma in society so there is something to be said about being discreet re. who you talk to about it. If you tell everyone you have contact with about your sp, you can undoubtedlly expect some negative feedback. Doug
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Today i had a revelation (been having a few lately – must be my stars). I think i know why i still smoke so much pot. It’s not self-medicating – it merely provides a digestable explanation as to why i’m weird, haven’t got a career, blah-blah etc – for other people. For me it’s all about ’cause and effect’ – my SP related failures don’t appear logical to other people – they don’t know about my SP. The same failures coming from a Pot-Head are easily understood. Sounds so simple. I still smoke pot because it’s a good explanation – it’s easier to explain than SP – very stock-standard explanation as to why someones a loser – "he’s wasted all the time" I have to fess up about my SP – ‘out’ myself in public. Sounds messy – but logical. Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell the truth? Please let me know what happened – before i forget that i posted this question
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I personnally wouldn’t do this just because to me it would be like: "Too Much Information". I don’t need to know every little detail about others and they don’t need to know every little detail about me. Secondly, to me, social phobia is not exactly something I cherish or feel pride about. Not that one should be ashamed of this but this is something I do not like and don’t feel is an aspect of my personnality any more than having the flu would be. I wouldn’t go around telling people I have the flu, it would be pretty obvious. Perhaps it’s a convenient explanation because telling people this would definetely make me feel vulnerable, but I still think it’s true.And valid. Don’t go around telling this to people you don’t know very well. Some people aren’t very nice. I’ve always been curious about pot and anxiety disorders in general. I read that pot can trigger panic attacks in people with panic disorder. It inevitably gives me a panic attack, in any context. Once it made me completely obssessive-compulsive (I showered three times in a row to eliminate all the evil bacteria, I cleaned up my entire room at three in the morning and that included sorting out the contents of every drawer in a particular order). I’ve stayed away from pot since. But my brother, who is also very anxious but doesn’t seem to have social phobia smokes pot all the time. He says it calms him down. It seems to calm down everyone except me. Actually I can take acid and stay perfectly calm, but if I smoke a little bit of pot I completely hit the roof. Oh, and if you don’t have a career, maybe you smoke pot because you’re bored and have nothing else to do. It might just be something you happen to do to deal with boredom and frustration. Some people drink instead, some watch TV all the time… stiff_ridges wrote in message
<871b1632.0107050054.26cca…@posting.google.com>… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Today i had a revelation (been having a few lately – must be my >stars). >I think i know why i still smoke so much pot. It’s not >self-medicating – it merely provides a digestable explanation as to >why i’m weird, haven’t got a career, blah-blah etc – for other >people. >For me it’s all about ’cause and effect’ – my SP related failures >don’t appear logical to other people – they don’t know about my SP. >The same failures coming from a Pot-Head are easily understood. >Sounds so simple. >I still smoke pot because it’s a good explanation – it’s easier to >explain than SP – very stock-standard explanation as to why someones a >loser – "he’s wasted all the time" >I have to fess up about my SP – ‘out’ myself in public. Sounds messy – >but logical. >Has anyone here tried this approach before? – become known publicly as >an SP sufferer – tell people about SP when you first meet them – tell >the truth? >Please let me know what happened – before i forget that i posted this >question
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