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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whats with that blame store? Wal-mart is PA central to a lot of us. I’m curious why does Wal-mart bother you? I know why it does me. The place is ran like a blasted highscool pep rally and they treat the workers like they are totatly unable to function without a member of management with them at all times. What Wal-Mart does to a lot of persons is interupts their thought process repeatidly to where they go into an attack. Their electronics department is a torture chamber all on it’s own. The moron at the cash register wants to watch the TV in the back so he turns up the volume to where he can hear it over the rest of the other stuff like the video displays ect. I have managed to accomplish one thing in my life. I got Wal-mart to remove the sensor that went off every single time anyone entered electronics. It took several letters to Bentonville but the vp called and agreed they had to go. Last week I had the misfortune of activating an inventory control device alarm I think is the term as I was leaving. An alarm went off and a electronic voice said you have activated our inventory control system please step back. I stepped right on out the front door. A kid comes running after me saying sir you have to come back in. He finally caught up with me and said you have to come back and let us check your bag. That did it. I said look what is in that bag is now my property I paid for it and it no longer belongs to Wal-mart. It’s none of your bussiness what I have and no I’m not coming back in the store. I was pulling through the parking lot and asked him well what are you going to do about it now? He said I’m gonna report it to the police. I laughed all the way home. I got home and noticed a magnetic chip on a $1.99 generic item. The clerk didn’t run it across the magnet. A word of advice if you can go to Target instead. The employees use radios and not the store PA system. The enviorment is much quieter and you are not assumed to be a coomon thief. I’ve never had an attack in a Target that I can recall. Back ground noise has a lot to do with a lot of panic attacks…. my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack. they gave me drugs and my therapist wanted me to talkout my problems. i really got better when i ordered books from barnes and noble delivered to my door and read them.  was taught how to breathe properly and how to relax.  the biggest thing about panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is where i had my first panic.  i faced it at walmart by going there everyday.  now if i feel nervous or panicky is say=screw it bring it on or if god wants this to happen to me then his will be done=or i see myself tearing all my clothes off and running around walmart naked(then so-be-it).  try to make yourself have a panic attack.  negative thinking caused my panics.  when i learned to change my thinking to positive i was better. donny Before you buy. i agree about walmart.  its too crowded, too loud and a madhouse.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keep going Di !! Re-read them as many times as you can.  Try also Peace from Nervous suffering, her second book.  It’s focuses a little more on agoraphobia, for the housebound housewife or the city bound exec, who is ok in his home town, but passes up promotion because of the extra travelling he may have to do. Many of us are ok locally, but find travelling to other towns (or States perhaps) very difficult.  I don’t know your specific fears, but it’s definitely worth the read. Best Wishes Sunday

Thanks Sunday! I’ve read that book too.  If I ever get through the second reading of Hope and Help, I’ll try to reread that one also.  Feeling trapped, bridges and heights are also fears of mine. Hugs, Di

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Whats with that blame store? Wal-mart is PA central to a lot of us. I’m curious why does Wal-mart bother you? I know why it does me. The place is ran like a blasted highscool pep rally and they treat the workers like they are totatly unable to function without a member of management with them at all times. What Wal-Mart does to a lot of persons is interupts their thought process repeatidly to where they go into an attack. Their electronics department is a torture chamber all on it’s own. The moron at the cash register wants to watch the TV in the back so he turns up the volume to where he can hear it over the rest of the other stuff like the video displays ect. I have managed to accomplish one thing in my life. I got Wal-mart to remove the sensor that went off every single time anyone entered electronics. It took several letters to Bentonville but the vp called and agreed they had to go. Last week I had the misfortune of activating an inventory control device alarm I think is the term as I was leaving. An alarm went off and a electronic voice said you have activated our inventory control system please step back. I stepped right on out the front door. A kid comes running after me saying sir you have to come back in. He finally caught up with me and said you have to come back and let us check your bag. That did it. I said look what is in that bag is now my property I paid for it and it no longer belongs to Wal-mart. It’s none of your bussiness what I have and no I’m not coming back in the store. I was pulling through the parking lot and asked him well what are you going to do about it now? He said I’m gonna report it to the police. I laughed all the way home. I got home and noticed a magnetic chip on a $1.99 generic item. The clerk didn’t run it across the magnet. A word of advice if you can go to Target instead. The employees use radios and not the store PA system. The enviorment is much quieter and you are not assumed to be a coomon thief. I’ve never had an attack in a Target that I can recall. Back ground noise has a lot to do with a lot of panic attacks…. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack. they gave me drugs and my therapist wanted me to talkout my problems. i really got better when i ordered books from barnes and noble delivered to my door and read them.  was taught how to breathe properly and how to relax.  the biggest thing about panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is where i had my first panic.  i faced it at walmart by going there everyday.  now if i feel nervous or panicky is say=screw it bring it on or if god wants this to happen to me then his will be done=or i see myself tearing all my clothes off and running around walmart naked(then so-be-it).  try to make yourself have a panic attack.  negative thinking caused my panics.  when i learned to change my thinking to positive i was better. donny

Before you buy.

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What happens if you are caught short without your pills??? If you recover from PD by going through panic, ie recovering the hard way, you could be in the middle of the desert without a stitch of clothing on but still you would cope with panic if it came.  If you have recovered by going through panic, it is unlikely that it would come anyway.  However, you wouldn’t have your pills.  Mind you, I know it’s unlikely that you would be in the middle of desert with no clothes on!!! Sunday – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, I have been through Cognitive therapy, bio-feedback, etc….and it never diminished my PA’s, just made me in more in control.  However, Paxil is what STOPPED them dead in their tracks.  OK, I get a little anxious sometimes, when its important to be a bit anxious, but I have more self confidence….don’t fear fear….can fly (planes, of course)….can talk in front of groups w/o having a tizzy, go anywhere, do anything, etc.  That’s what I needed.  I only take 10 mgs …but for me, that’s all I need.  I was originally given xanax in emergency situations (w/o paxil)  but xanax didn’t ALWAYS work (breakthrough and all that) and my Dr. felt that Paxil would be more helpful.  It was a hard deal going on it in the beginning, as I started at 20 and then went down…I had all the nasty side effects when starting out… This is MY story and I know everyone is different. Just thought I would put it out there, in case it helps anyone. Best wishes to all R

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Keep going Di !! Re-read them as many times as you can.  Try also Peace from Nervous suffering, her second book.  It’s focuses a little more on agoraphobia, for the housebound housewife or the city bound exec, who is ok in his home town, but passes up promotion because of the extra travelling he may have to do. Many of us are ok locally, but find travelling to other towns (or States perhaps) very difficult.  I don’t know your specific fears, but it’s definitely worth the read. Best Wishes Sunday

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(DClax28033) writes: my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack. they gave me drugs and my therapist wanted me to talkout my problems. i really got better when i ordered books from barnes and noble delivered to my door and read them.  was taught how to breathe properly and how to relax.  the biggest thing about panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is where i had my first panic.  i faced it at walmart by going there everyday.  now if i feel nervous or panicky is say=screw it bring it on or if god wants this to happen to me then his will be done=or i see myself tearing all my clothes off and running around walmart naked(then so-be-it).  try to make yourself have a panic attack.  negative thinking caused my panics.  when i learned to change my thinking to positive i was better. donny That’s a pretty good attitude you have there Donny.  I read two of Dr. Claire Weekes’ books and they helped me a long time ago.  I’ve been trying to read Hope and Help For Your Nerves for the second time, but I keep procrastinating everyday that I’m going to finish it.  Maybe tonight.  (Oh sure!) Di

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my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack. they gave me drugs and my therapist wanted me to talkout my problems. i really got better when i ordered books from barnes and noble delivered to my door and read them.  was taught how to breathe properly and how to relax.  the biggest thing about panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is where i had my first panic.  i faced it at walmart by going there everyday.  now if i feel nervous or panicky is say=screw it bring it on or if god wants this to happen to me then his will be done=or i see myself tearing all my clothes off and running around walmart naked(then so-be-it).  try to make yourself have a panic attack.  negative thinking caused my panics.  when i learned to change my thinking to positive i was better. donny

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my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack.

because they don’t know themselves another common error unfortunately talkout my problems.

an archaic method of therapy based upon cause and effect dyanmical models originaly found in early physics which is what freud used as his original model based on fluid dynamics-if pressure is excerted on one part of a structure it spills over into another hence there must be parts of our brain that function on different levels of awareness: ego id superego-by integrating them and transfering ones core trauma to the therapist one is cured-however it rarely works for anything other then a poetic understanding of ones possible origins of personality structure and is highly interpretive usualy by the shrink who in most cases can’t interpret a road map let alone you-dynamic therapy is helpful in certain areas but hardly useful for a panic attack or high level of anxiety-anxiety doesn’t get cathected or purged ordered books

called bibliotherapy some actualy bill for it it all depends on the books you read-the broader the base the better your overall knowledge and knowledge is power to change. panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is

well we can fear it we do that very well-it is prefereable not to and that is what can be learned –how not to-how to allow yourself to feel things and learn how you get yourself to feel them and how not to. we are afraid of fear a highly abstract concept and a very nebulous one that most cannot relate to consciously negative thinking caused my panics.

thought usually precedes emotions and certainly antecedes it

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now I LIKE this theory – try and make yourself have one, very brave person to do this for sure, but imagine how powerful you would fee afterwards! I notice I dont panic over life changing things (like lack of food, home, job, boyfriend), and I think its because I’ve experienced them fully. I’ve been unemployed, been homeless, been without a bloke before, and had no food. My body remembers this and KNOWS that it can survive it and so doesnt care if there is no food in Sainsbury cos of petrol crisis.   So I use that to be proud that I didnt join in the "panic shop" Boy those people know nothing about panic – who can shop when they’re panicking??? ;0) Big big hugs to everyone… Sue

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack. they gave me drugs and my therapist wanted me to talkout my problems. i really got better when i ordered books from barnes and noble delivered to my door and read them.  was taught how to breathe properly and how to relax.  the biggest thing about panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is where i had my first panic.  i faced it at walmart by going there everyday.  now if i feel nervous or panicky is say=screw it bring it on or if god wants this to happen to me then his will be done=or i see myself tearing all my clothes off and running around walmart naked(then so-be-it).  try to make yourself have a panic attack.  negative thinking caused my panics.  when i learned to change my thinking to positive i was better. donny

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Well, I have been through Cognitive therapy, bio-feedback, etc….and it never diminished my PA’s, just made me in more in control.  However, Paxil is what STOPPED them dead in their tracks.  OK, I get a little anxious sometimes, when its important to be a bit anxious, but I have more self confidence….don’t fear fear….can fly (planes, of course)….can talk in front of groups w/o having a tizzy, go anywhere, do anything, etc.  That’s what I needed.  I only take 10 mgs …but for me, that’s all I need.  I was originally given xanax in emergency situations (w/o paxil)  but xanax didn’t ALWAYS work (breakthrough and all that) and my Dr. felt that Paxil would be more helpful.  It was a hard deal going on it in the beginning, as I started at 20 and then went down…I had all the nasty side effects when starting out… This is MY story and I know everyone is different. Just thought I would put it out there, in case it helps anyone. Best wishes to all R

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(DClax28033) writes: my doctors and therapists never once told me how to manage a panic attack. they gave me drugs and my therapist wanted me to talkout my problems. i really got better when i ordered books from barnes and noble delivered to my door and read them.  was taught how to breathe properly and how to relax.  the biggest thing about panic is you cant fear it.  you have to face it.  walmart is where i had my first panic.  i faced it at walmart by going there everyday.  now if i feel nervous or panicky is say=screw it bring it on or if god wants this to happen to me then his will be done=or i see myself tearing all my clothes off and running around walmart naked(then so-be-it).  try to make yourself have a panic attack.  negative thinking caused my panics.  when i learned to change my thinking to positive i was better. donny

That’s a pretty good attitude you have there Donny.  I read two of Dr. Claire Weekes’ books and they helped me a long time ago.  I’ve been trying to read Hope and Help For Your Nerves for the second time, but I keep procrastinating everyday that I’m going to finish it.  Maybe tonight.  (Oh sure!) Di

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