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I have just returned from a 2 week vacation in Greecen and did not have one p.a. less than 24hrs in L.A. they are back and 10 times worse.
I am so sorry to hear that – but gotta say – wow! You made it to Greece? I haven’t flown or travelled far in years! I am going through some major life changes right now that I know long term will be good for me, but i am having problems coping with new job, move, etc.
That is always hard. Even for normies. To top it all I do not have an health insurance at this time to cover any councelling or mediation. Can anyone give Alex and myself some practical hints and advise to ease them when they come??
Did you mean medication? If so – many of the drug companies have a Patient in Need program that can get meds for free if you need them. My doc has given me Paxil, but i have not started taking them cos i am afraid of nightmares and sweats. I have had them for 3 months. Group please
help!!. Well, personally – I don’t blame you for being a bit skittish about the Paxil – it quite commonly can cause aggitation, while some experience being wiped out – but you never know. Is hard to say this – cause it costs money (tho thankfully many benzos are generic and about dirt cheap now), but when starting an SSRI – is a good thing to have soemthing like Xanax or Klonopin or Valium or whatever just in case you are prone to the hyped side effects if/when it kicks in – which could take weeks. If you are having nightmares and sweats now – could be worth a shot to try meds – tho *I* personally feel benzos are better as they are quicker and if one has probs with Paxil it could be a prob to taper them – a new thing found about them since they hit the general market. Just my 2 cents….best wishes!’ Gwen
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i im having panic attack.the reason why is because i anticipate having one.i know it s in my mind but it s hard to fight the problem. it start in 1994 and i ve been feeling well since.but it start back 2 weeks ago but from experience i ve been able to calm down.but it as come back wednesday and since im always thinkin about it.sometime i cry, i don t want to eat and im always tired.im obsess about having another one that im anticipating each ones.i know that with hard work, medication and a good psychologist i can eliminate it once and for all. anyone is having this kind of problem and how do you do to control it
Hi, Alex – welcome to ASAP 
What you have written about is very close to what most of us here will have experienced at some time or another, so you’re among friends. In my opinion, especially when it first begins, trying to fight anxiety states on one’s own is almost impossible – help *is* available from your doctor, though, and that’s the very best place to start, IMO. Good luck – let us know how you get on, won’t you? — Gary Cooper
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hi alex, i cannot give you advise, but i can agree that i am having the exact problem right now, and i would also like some help from anyone who reads this. I am aware of the sympton and now what they are. I have just returned from a 2 week vacation in Greecen and did not have one p.a. less than 24hrs in L.A. they are back and 10 times worse. I am going through some major life changes right now that I know long term will be good for me, but i am having problems coping with new job, move, etc. To top it all I do not have an health insurance at this time to cover any councelling or mediation. Can anyone give Alex and myself some practical hints and advise to ease them when they come?? Alex, this may sound crazy but when i first had a panic attack, i stuck my head in the freezer (with the lid open) to get the cold air, and i was able to breath in, also the brown paper bag works, but this is only a quick fix to a bigger problem. Last nite in bed everytime i drifted into a sleep it would bring on a p.a., hence lack of sleep plus jet lag! My doc has given me Paxil, but i have not started taking them cos i am afraid of nightmares and sweats. I have had them for 3 months. Group please help!!. Write me anytime Alex, good luck. Debra
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i im having panic attack.the reason why is because i anticipate having one.i know it s in my mind but it s hard to fight the problem. it start in 1994 and i ve been feeling well since.but it start back 2 weeks ago but from experience i ve been able to calm down.but it as come back wednesday and since im always thinkin about it.sometime i cry, i don t want to eat and im always tired.im obsess about having another one that im anticipating each ones.i know that with hard work, medication and a good psychologist i can eliminate it once and for all. anyone is having this kind of problem and how do you do to control it thanks & good luck
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This is how I felt about two weeks ago. I’ve started meds with my psychiatrist’s guidance (serzone and ativan) and I am feeling much better – even though my dose is still low and I’m working my way up the dosage ladder. I lost a good 5 pounds in one week (which is good for me, but disconcerting as to why/how it was lost). When had these symptoms my doctor thought it was depression along with the panic/anxiety. Please see your doctor.
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Had a terrible attack myself yesterday…Xanax did not help me as i waited for it to kick in(1MG)…
jag: Have you tried taking your Xanax sublingually (under your tongue) in extreme panic situations? I have done this with good results. It tastes godawful, but gets right in your bloodstream, rather than having to wait for the digestive process to do its thing. Break your tablet in half before placing it under your tongue (circumvents the coating a little and speeds meltdown) and just let it dissolve; swallow occasionally. Sorry you had such an uncomfortable experience. – Anne —
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Help me I’m in rough shape, I am close to crazy, I had 4 really bad attacks today and took 4 xanax I’m getting no where and I have been doing this for over
Hi, Welcome to ASAP. Is there anyway that you could tell us more about yourself and your anxiety, such as any other meds you have been on, diagnosis and if you are in therapy? Obviously you aren`t getting better with the Xanax. You need to go to your doctor and tell him how badly you are doing, if he won`t help you then it is time to move on to another doctor. I know you feel close to crazy, I have been there myself and I can tell you that you won`t go crazy. You do need to get some help, this isn`t going to go away by itself. Take care and please keep posting. Jackie Nobody can be exactly like me. Sometimes even I have trouble doing it.
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Anne, Yes i have tried it under the ole tongue,not much result..You know something..Get this…When i was on Lorazepam,there were some slight atttacks,but nothing i could not handle…Now,i can not do a damn thing as i do feel these suckers coming on….I do take my Meds in the morning,just as i am suppose to do… The VA would not purchase Ativan for it was more costly that the med i am on……So i had to go to Xanax,after 12 years on Ativan … This guy margrove,who posts here,well i’ll tell you something about him……My Analyst is not even in the ball park with this guy…I get more out of his post’s than i do seeing my nut Dr. ….LOL……. This group is group therapy to me….I really mean that……Hang in there…See you later and thanks for the inquiry. jag
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Many of us have felt the same before, close to crazy! I read some of the other posts about Xanax and they gave you some good things to think about. Xanax in my case (this dosen’t hold true for all people) was not enough, I went to klonopin (doctor recommended) and was much better. Nowdays I have cut down the klonopin intake about half or more and I dont sit around feeling the "crazy feeling" as much. I have been dealing with this problem for over 20 years. Rod H. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Help me I’m in rough shape, I am close to crazy, I had 4 really bad attacks today and took 4 xanax I’m getting no where and I have been doing this for over
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hey dustin….10 years? have you been around the med wheel, too? whatcha been on? does your xanax work? what about therapy? I had 3 attacks yesterday, i know how you feel, xanax does the trick for me, but it also makes me soooo tired, you? * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful
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Hi Jag, The secret to taking Xanax is to take it before the attacks get really bad, by then it is beyond Xanax help. Try taking the Xanax when you get the first twinge of an attack. Now if the attack is out of the blue and severe when it begins then disregard this post. We usually get some kind of hint that it is coming, look for this sign. Cathy — P.H.O.B.I.A. People Helping Others Become Independent Again Off-line Self Help Support Group, NJ http://community.nj.com/cc/phobia
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Had a terrible attack myself yesterday…Xanax did not help me as i waited for it to kick in(1MG)…I might point out that i already had my dose that morning..Still no relief as i was short of breath,dizzy,almost on the point of thinking i was going to vapor lock at any time…Believe me when i say i know how you feel…..I was amazed when i opened my eye’s this morning…I was actually alive. jag
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Help me I’m in rough shape, I am close to crazy, I had 4 really bad attacks today and took 4 xanax I’m getting no where and I have been doing this for over
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Had a terrible attack myself yesterday…Xanax did not help me as i waited for it to kick in(1MG)…I might point out that i already had my dose that morning..Still no relief as i was short of breath,dizzy,almost on the point of thinking i was going to vapor lock at any time…Believe me when i say i know how you feel…..I was amazed when i opened my eye’s this morning…I was actually alive. jag
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That’s pretty much how it happened to all of us. I was an exec in a boardroom, Kim Bassinger was getting her Oscar I’m told, when we had massive Panic Attacks.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hello, all i am new in the room so please bear with me. i have had panic attacks from the time i got in my 40’s. one day i could’nt handle my self. i really need a good support group. so i hope you don’t mind a mixed-up grandmother in your chatroom. thank-a ll-of-you! mrsmb123 Welcome! Believe me, any question you have regarding anxiety can be answered by someone in this group. We all know what it is and how it feels. I hope you find this to be a safe haven, as I have over the years. Vicki
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hello, all i am new in the room so please bear with me. i have had panic attacks from the time i got in my 40’s. one day i could’nt handle my self. i really need a good support group. so i hope you don’t mind a mixed-up grandmother in your chatroom. thank-a ll-of-you! mrsmb123
Welcome! Believe me, any question you have regarding anxiety can be answered by someone in this group. We all know what it is and how it feels. I hope you find this to be a safe haven, as I have over the years. Vicki
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| | hello, all i am new in the room so please bear with me. i have had panic | attacks | from the time i got in my 40’s. one day i could’nt handle my self. i really | need a | good support group. so i hope you don’t mind a mixed-up grandmother in your | chatroom. Hello mrshotlady4eva , we don’t mind having mixed up people here; we’re all in the same boat. since your other post said you’re sort of new to computers (and the Internet, too, I guess) maybe it would help to explain the difference between newsgroups and chatroom. chatrooms are sort of interactive bulletin boards. usually, you sign in to announce your presence and then you can talk to anyone who happens to be in the "room" at that time. AOL has chatrooms, as does Yahoo. I’m not an AOL user (I see by your email address that you are), so I can’t explain how to use an AOL chatroom, but maybe your youngest son can. newsgroups, on the other hand, are open to anyone to "post" a message. these message take time to propagate to the various newservers on the Internet. It can take a variable amount of time, from a few minutes to hours, depending upon how busy the ‘Net is, for messages to appear on all the servers. Some people will see your message much earlier than other people do. Your post doesn’t disappear when you logoff, it stays in the newsgroup so other people can read and reply (if they want to) when they login. Anyway, lots of us have panic attacks, or other forms of anxiety, so you can have lots of company here if you want it. Take care, Figaro
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hello, all i am new in the room so please bear with me. i have had panic attacks from the time i got in my 40’s. one day i could’nt handle my self. i really need a good support group. so i hope you don’t mind a mixed-up grandmother in your chatroom. thank-a ll-of-you! mrsmb123
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the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered
you cannot medicate away your thoughts (well, not without losing consciousness) and what you told yourself in words or images about this story and your personalizing it was a culprit that you can work on by disputing these beliefs. y panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working
see above although you are on a small dose and may do better with a more chronic dose of xanax I tried my cbt,
meaning what?what is it you do? So many people think that by taking a deep breath and distracting themselves they are using cbt-they are using two techniques that are good tools but are not cbt-just tools of cbt-challenging your thoughts redirecting your belief systems changing the way you respond to various thinking patterns will most likely help much better. If your doc is not showing you how to do these things then ask him to-or do some reading-try burns new mood therapy feeling good handbook, and ellis new guide to rational living- LM
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I just found this chat room and thought I could get some help from a mental health professional. However, appears I was wrong. Is there a site to got to to get questions asnwered. I have suffered from anxity and intrusive thoughts for about 30 years!! Long time hugh! I have only used zanax, can take it or leave it. Did not use for over a year. So for me don’t think is addictive. Gypsy
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Hi Gypsy, Please post your questions. There is a psychiatrist here who can give you medical answers. His name is Margrove…you may want to call his name to attention in your subject line. Feel free to post about anything…many have experiences they can relate to you. Peace, John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just found this chat room and thought I could get some help from a mental health professional. However, appears I was wrong. Is there a site to got to to get questions asnwered. I have suffered from anxity and intrusive thoughts for about 30 years!! Long time hugh! I have only used zanax, can take it or leave it. Did not use for over a year. So for me don’t think is addictive. Gypsy
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I just found this chat room and thought I could get some help from a mental health professional. However, appears I was wrong. Is there a site to got to to get questions asnwered. I have suffered from anxity and intrusive thoughts for about 30 years!! Long time hugh! I have only used zanax, can take it or leave it. Did not use for over a year. So for me don’t think is addictive. Gypsy
http://www.algy.com/pdi go to *discussion group* Philip (we have the odd professional here too BTW and in a way we are all PAD-professionals because of living it) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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HI Jeanie, I know what you mean, I have had this now for 6 years off and on, I"ll tell you , aside from having cancer, this is such a terrible illness to have, and I keep getting more and more amazed at the amount of people suffering from this. I wouldnt wish it on anyone!! My grandmother had anxiety and panic when she was in her 30s, she just died last year at 86, but back then she used to go to the doctors and they would tell her she was crazy and give her shock treatments to try and make her snap out of it. She would tell me the horror stories about that, I felt so bad for her. We have come such a long way with treatments. If only they had it back then for her. Well heres wishing you and everyone else a good night. sandy
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I wanted to add that it was October that I found this group, and they have meant so much to me. Even when I can’t post very often, I am here, and the support and education here means so much to me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi Sandy…I hope you are feeling better by now. It is so scary when you are in the midst of a panic attack, and for me it was really scary when I first started having PA’s. I didn’t have a clue what was going on, and I was so terrified. My main disorder came with the fear of panic attacks, in a way, even more than the panic attacks themselves. I was so hypervigilant for every symptom. I was so scared. It was a year ago at this time that I was about 2 months into this thing, terrified that I would miss too much time at work and lose my job and end up living in a refrigerator box! I am doing better, but I still have my adrenaline rushes. They scare me, but I am learning to talk myself through them. I sure hope you are doing better. Stick around, and learn from the people here. Even if you are not an "expert" in anxiety, you can always offer an encouraging word. Thank you all so much for your advise ,, its so comforting to know you all are here, and have had so much experience, I hope that I can one day give the same good advise to someone else, my mother seems to think this experience will somehow make me a stronger and better person. I can only hope so. Sandy p.s. I only take the effexor once a day in the morning. Jeannie
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Thank you all so much for your advise ,, its so comforting to know you all are here, and have had so much experience, I hope that I can one day give the same good advise to someone else, my mother seems to think this experience will somehow make me a stronger and better person. I can only hope so. Sandy p.s. I only take the effexor once a day in the morning.
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Hi Sandy…I hope you are feeling better by now. It is so scary when you are in the midst of a panic attack, and for me it was really scary when I first started having PA’s. I didn’t have a clue what was going on, and I was so terrified. My main disorder came with the fear of panic attacks, in a way, even more than the panic attacks themselves. I was so hypervigilant for every symptom. I was so scared. It was a year ago at this time that I was about 2 months into this thing, terrified that I would miss too much time at work and lose my job and end up living in a refrigerator box! I am doing better, but I still have my adrenaline rushes. They scare me, but I am learning to talk myself through them. I sure hope you are doing better. Stick around, and learn from the people here. Even if you are not an "expert" in anxiety, you can always offer an encouraging word. Thank you all so much for your advise ,, its so comforting to know you all are here, and have had so much experience, I hope that I can one day give the same good advise to someone else, my mother seems to think this experience will somehow make me a stronger and better person. I can only hope so. Sandy p.s. I only take the effexor once a day in the morning.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, well Im on my fourth week of effexor-xr 75mg, I have been doing well for the most part, but this morning I was watching the news and there was a story on about some man who killed his family somewhere, I dont remember where, the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered my panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working and that made me more anxious, I finally broke down and took a zanax, I hate to take that for fear of addiction, I only take it when these attacks are real bad, I havent had one in 4 weeks. It helped and I got through the day ok. I just hate getting these attacks so so much, I tried my cbt, and deep breathing, but I was hoping so much the effexor would make this all go away!!!!! Have I not given it enough time , or should my dosage be increased? Well thanks for listening. Sandy
Dear Sandy, Even with the best of meds, you can still have a whopper of a PA now and then. If you were doing real well up until this panic attack, then I don`t think this warrants increasing your dose. If you start having more Pa`s and your anxiety is creeping back up there, that would be a different story. I don`t think there are any meds that can make it "all" go away. Take care!! Jackie "Be Who You Are.. And Say What You Feel.. Because Those Who Mind Don’t Matter.. And Those That Matter Don’t Mind…" Dr. Seuss
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Hi Sandy, Even on medication we can still experience panic. Sometimes something may hit you out of the blue, but give it all time. It takes a bit of practice to get through tough moments like you. Upsetting news sotires could have the same effect on me, but the CBT skills I’ve learned, as well as the meds, help reduce the panic response. Try reading the books by Claire Weekes (sp?). She has good advice on how to accept the episode and keep it minimized. You can increase your panic by panicing about have a panic attack. This too shall pass…and remember that you are getting stronger everyday, even with a setback. Peace and Blessings, John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, well Im on my fourth week of effexor-xr 75mg, I have been doing well for the most part, but this morning I was watching the news and there was a story on about some man who killed his family somewhere, I dont remember where, the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered my panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working and that made me more anxious, I finally broke down and took a zanax, I hate to take that for fear of addiction, I only take it when these attacks are real bad, I havent had one in 4 weeks. It helped and I got through the day ok. I just hate getting these attacks so so much, I tried my cbt, and deep breathing, but I was hoping so much the effexor would make this all go away!!!!! Have I not given it enough time , or should my dosage be increased? Well thanks for listening. Sandy
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So glad that you finally took the Xanax, Sandy. So glad it helped and your day got better again. I think we all wish the meds would take away all of our anxiety, but many times it doesn’t. It just gives us a fighting chance. Hope you will take the Xanax next time before your anxiety peaks. Take care, Liz – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, well Im on my fourth week of effexor-xr 75mg, I have been doing well for the most part, but this morning I was watching the news and there was a story on about some man who killed his family somewhere, I dont remember where, the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered my panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working and that made me more anxious, I finally broke down and took a zanax, I hate to take that for fear of addiction, I only take it when these attacks are real bad, I havent had one in 4 weeks. It helped and I got through the day ok. I just hate getting these attacks so so much, I tried my cbt, and deep breathing, but I was hoping so much the effexor would make this all go away!!!!! Have I not given it enough time , or should my dosage be increased? Well thanks for listening. Sandy
– The best thing about the future is that it only comes one day at a time. —–Abraham Lincoln
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Hi Sandy, I’ve been on EffexorXR for over a year…I think I told you about it before…but my pdoc also prescribed Xanax along with it. I used to be like you, so afraid of taking it that I never took like I should or in the dose that would do me any good. I have since come to realize and accept that Xanax is just like any other medicine and if I want it to work for me, I need to take it as prescribed. With the combo of Effexor and Xanax my life has done a complete change-around. Please don’t be afraid of getting addicted to Xanax…as I said I’ve been taking it daily for over a year and if anything I have been able to reduce my daily intake a little bit. I don’t worry about going off Xanax because if this is what I have to take to feel as good as I do, I’m on it for life. I’m a bit older than you, and I have lived too many years fighting meds and staying anxious and missing out on a great deal of life….I like where I am today….if that means taking Effexor and Xanax every day, I wouldn’t trade one day for a day without meds….been there, done that…never again! ~Rita 
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi everyone, well Im on my fourth week of effexor-xr 75mg, I have been doing well for the most part, but this morning I was watching the news and there was a story on about some man who killed his family somewhere, I dont remember where, the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered my panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working and that made me more anxious, I finally broke down and took a zanax, I hate to take that for fear of addiction, I only take it when these attacks are real bad, I havent had one in 4 weeks. It helped and I got through the day ok. I just hate getting these attacks so so much, I tried my cbt, and deep breathing, but I was hoping so much the effexor would make this all go away!!!!! Have I not given it enough time , or should my dosage be increased? Well thanks for listening. Sandy
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Hi Sandy…It is hard to say about your dose, but I do believe 75 mg is a low dose. Do you take 75mg once or twice a day? Please don’t fear taking a Xanax when your panic is really high. You will not become addicted. Please take some time and read through some old ASAP posts, there are lots of posts about benzos and dependency. If you are only using Xanax "as needed" you will be fine. I use Ativan maybe once or twice a week. If I ever need to go back on it on a regular basis I will have no fear of doing it. Best wishes to you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi everyone, well Im on my fourth week of effexor-xr 75mg, I have been doing well for the most part, but this morning I was watching the news and there was a story on about some man who killed his family somewhere, I dont remember where, the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered my panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working and that made me more anxious, I finally broke down and took a zanax, I hate to take that for fear of addiction, I only take it when these attacks are real bad, I havent had one in 4 weeks. It helped and I got through the day ok. I just hate getting these attacks so so much, I tried my cbt, and deep breathing, but I was hoping so much the effexor would make this all go away!!!!! Have I not given it enough time , or should my dosage be increased? Well thanks for listening. Sandy
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Hi everyone, well Im on my fourth week of effexor-xr 75mg, I have been doing well for the most part, but this morning I was watching the news and there was a story on about some man who killed his family somewhere, I dont remember where, the story was very disturbing to me and I think that was what triggered my panic attack today, on a scale of 1to10 10 being the worst I was a 10. Then I thought the effexor must not be working and that made me more anxious, I finally broke down and took a zanax, I hate to take that for fear of addiction, I only take it when these attacks are real bad, I havent had one in 4 weeks. It helped and I got through the day ok. I just hate getting these attacks so so much, I tried my cbt, and deep breathing, but I was hoping so much the effexor would make this all go away!!!!! Have I not given it enough time , or should my dosage be increased? Well thanks for listening. Sandy
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My daughter has a fear of driving at 19 and refuses to get her license she needs to work. What medication can be useful and are panic attacks genetic? — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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My daughter has a fear of driving at 19 and refuses to get her license she needs to work. What medication can be useful and are panic attacks genetic?
Hi afghan, Welcome to ASAP! Do you know why your daughter has a fear of driving? Could it be a fear of an accident or fear of independence? If this is the only fear she has, she might benefit from a therapy called Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. This kind of therapy would teach her to approach her fear situation with some coping skills, and it would also teach her to challenge her thinking. It is important you find a psych doctor that uses this kind of therapy, and then he would determine if meds are necessary for her. The medications used for panic and anxiety are benzo`s such as Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan and Valium. Anti-depressants are used too, such as Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft and many others. Many times people are on a benzo/anti-depressant combo. Only a Pdoc can tell you what she needs. It is felt there is a genetic component to PA`s. Many people here will tell you of Panic and anxiety running in their families. Here is a url on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. Take care and good luck to your daughter. http://panicdisorder.about.com/msubtherapy2.htm?pid=2791&cob=home Jackie
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IMO anti-depressants and such should be reserved for very bad cases of anxiety and panic and I would never give ad’s or any other drug to a child unless their case was very severe.
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My daughter has a fear of driving at 19 and refuses to get her license she needs to work. What medication can be useful and are panic attacks genetic?
Panic attacks can be genetic. Not all of them are though. Does your daughter have PA’s? There are essentially two kinds of meds: benzos (tranquillizers) and antidepressants of the SSRI & TCA groups. There are more but these are first choice meds generally speaking. There is also CBT = Cognitive Behavioural Therapy which may take care of single phobias of which fear of driving may be one. Hard to tell without more info. Philip (who never got his driver’s license because of PD – but I’m hell on a bicycle;)) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Posted via Talkway – http://www.talkway.com Exchange ideas on practically anything ™.
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(JacandGil) writes: The medications used for panic and anxiety are benzo`s such as Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan and Valium.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for someone to start on these and try to learn how to drive! They really do impair one’s motor coordination at first. -elizabeth
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Philip (who never got his driver’s license because of PD – but I’m hell on a bicycle;))
You don’t have a license either, Philip? Wow! I thought I was the only one. I was 16 when I came up to Cambridge, so for me it’s nothing to do with panic or phobias – just realistic fear of being killed by stark-raving-mad Boston drivers! I had a bike during my brief California stint, but I can’t say I was ever hell on it. Purgatory maybe. -elizabeth
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(JacandGil) writes: The medications used for panic and anxiety are benzo`s such as Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan and Valium. I don’t think it’s a good idea for someone to start on these and try to learn how to drive! They really do impair one’s motor coordination at first.
I never told poster her daughter should start on any meds. I suggested that poster should look into CBT and enclosed a url on CBT. I also stated twice that it would be up to the Pdoc if meds were needed. I was simply answering posters question about about what meds are useful for Panic. Jackie
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(JacandGil) writes: The medications used for panic and anxiety are benzo`s such as Xanax, Klonopin, Ativan and Valium. I don’t think it’s a good idea for someone to start on these and try to learn how to drive! They really do impair one’s motor coordination at first. -elizabeth
Elizabeth: You might want to add a YMMV to that. Benzodiazapines don’t cause any motor coordination impairment on me, at first or later. Everyone must try the meds first, hopefully under safe conditions, to see how they will be effected. As well, we must do what we must to get past these disorders. Medications are one way that has proven very successful for many sufferers. Starting on the medications, may impair the motor coordination at first, but usually don’t have a continued effect of that kind. So it may delay his learning to drive, oh well. I think you may have missed the general idea of Jackie’s reply. She answered the poster’s questions and gave additional information that was not only very sound but didn’t necessarily involve medications. Please use care and try not to use such a cavalier attitude when contridicting someone. Especially when it’s someone like Jackie, who has given this group a lot of positive support and information. tnx, drr — The second nicest guy on the internet Need the ASAP Mini-FAQ? A copy is at www.drrhodes.org
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hi! im 19 myself and i suffer from panic disorder. luckily i got my liscence as schedualed:) um i dont think i spelled that correctly! but anyways i was lucky to be a carefree person until i was 18:) anyways, i am still able to drive by myself in my small town, but i havent drove out of the city limits by myself in except for about 7 or 8 times in the past 1&1/2 years:( i live near the dallas/ft worth area and havent been there in a long time. but the only advice i can give you is to just try to get your daughter started with baby steps. just try, even if its just around the block with you and her both in the car, or maybe just try to get her to back out of the driveway!! that would be a start right? well just pray about it! good luck
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My daughter has a fear of driving at 19 and refuses to get her license she needs to work. What medication can be useful and are panic attacks genetic?
Woo, back up the train a bit. Just because your daughter has a problem with driving doesn’t automatically mean meds are required. Indeed some of the side effects of meds can make driving more difficult. These aren’t candy, nor are they magic bullets. Before, meds are considered she might find doing a behavioural therapy course beneficial. The desensitising/exposure component in particular may help. If her anxiety is the result of some past trauma then therapy targeted at that event(s) may also help, but is more a longer term consideration, IMO. Panic Disorder, probably does have a genetic component, how much is a matter of debate. IMO, its the main factor. Ian
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Philip (who never got his driver’s license because of PD – but I’m hell on a bicycle;)) You don’t have a license either, Philip? Wow! I thought I was the only one. I was 16 when I came up to Cambridge, so for me it’s nothing to do with panic or phobias – just realistic fear of being killed by stark-raving-mad Boston drivers! I had a bike during my brief California stint, but I can’t say I was ever hell on it. Purgatory maybe. -elizabeth
LOL! In Holland the bicycle is still the most popular means of transport and everybody has one. This may partly be because Holland is a *flat* country. In the city you’re often quicker at your destination by bike than by car. Philip
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My daughter has a fear of driving at 19 and refuses to get her license she needs to work. What medication can be useful and are panic attacks genetic?
Whoa, back up the train a bit. Just because your daughter has a problem with driving doesn’t automatically mean meds are required. Indeed some of the side effects of meds can make driving more difficult or dangerous. These aren’t candy, nor are they magic bullets. Before, meds are considered she might find doing a behavioural therapy course beneficial. The desensitising/exposure component in particular may help. If her anxiety is the result of some past trauma then therapy targeted at that event(s) may also help, but is more a longer term consideration, IMO. Panic Disorder, probably does have a genetic component, how much is a matter of debate. IMO, its the main factor. Ian
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My daughter has a fear of driving at 19 and refuses to get her license she needs to work. What medication can be useful and are panic attacks genetic? Woo, back up the train a bit. Just because your daughter has a problem with driving doesn’t automatically mean meds are required. Indeed some of the side effects of meds can make driving more difficult. These aren’t candy, nor are they magic bullets. Before, meds are considered she might find doing a behavioural therapy course beneficial. The desensitising/exposure component in particular may help. If her anxiety is the result of some past trauma then therapy targeted at that event(s) may also help, but is more a longer term consideration, IMO. Panic Disorder, probably does have a genetic component, how much is a matter of debate. IMO, its the main factor. Ian
Ian, I’m worried. Candy!!!!!! Surely you mean lollies. How long have you been hanging around here? I have a 19 year old son that drives like a maniac, flat out & stop. I also have a 17 year old daughter that refuses to get her learner’s, some environmental issue (pollution etc). However she still tries to cadge lifts. I reckon public transport is a great reality check, and really helps the environment. Nothing to do with PD. Nothing to do with PD in this case, Meryl
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Rhodes) writes: You might want to add a YMMV to that. Benzodiazapines don’t cause any motor coordination impairment on me, at first or later.
You’re right, I should. *However*, a lot of people think they’re not impaired on benzos and alcohol and so forth, but performance tests show otherwise. Introspection really isn’t a very good way to tell if one is impaired. YMMV. -elizabeth
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Curious Dee I live in Arlington. Where are you?? Brenda
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<snipped You don’t have a license either, Philip? Wow! I thought I was the only one.
Make that 3 of us!! I’ve had 2 permits, I just can’t seem to do all of those different things at one time. I’ll be 38 later this month. I don’t care if I ever drive. Vicki "You and I will meet again When we’re least expecting it, Somewhere in some far out place I will recognize your face" Tom Petty
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snipped Ian, I’m worried. Candy!!!!!! Surely you mean lollies. How long have you been hanging around here? snipped Meryl
Some days if seems like forever!!!!! :-) You need to make allowances, Meryl, there are only 2 or 3 Aussies and a few Poms that would understand "lollies" so it’s easier to go with the flow. But, I do drop in the occasional Strine reference, education by sublimination and stealth sort of thing. <BG Ian
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snipped Ian, I’m worried. Candy!!!!!! Surely you mean lollies. How long have you been hanging around here? snipped Meryl Some days if seems like forever!!!!! :-) You need to make allowances, Meryl, there are only 2 or 3 Aussies and a few Poms that would understand "lollies" so it’s easier to go with the flow. But, I do drop in the occasional Strine reference, education by sublimination and stealth sort of thing. <BG Ian
Hi Ian, I understand. I lived in North America for a year. They speak a totally different language. However I disagree about the Poms. Don’t they say sweets? Meryl
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snipped You don’t have a license either, Philip? Wow! I thought I was the only one. Make that 3 of us!! I’ve had 2 permits, I just can’t seem to do all of those different things at one time. I’ll be 38 later this month. I don’t care if I ever drive. Vicki "You and I will meet again When we’re least expecting it, Somewhere in some far out place I will recognize your face" Tom Petty
My Grandfather’s cousin didn’t get her driver’s license until she was 65 years old. You people are young. You have PLENTY of time. Karen
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snipped You need to make allowances, Meryl, there are only 2 or 3 Aussies and a few Poms that would understand "lollies" so it’s easier to go with the flow. But, I do drop in the occasional Strine reference, education by sublimination and stealth sort of thing. <BG Ian Hi Ian, I understand. I lived in North America for a year. They speak a totally different language.
True, but we have the advantage of being able to understand most of it because we’re force fed it via the boob tube very day. However I disagree about the Poms. Don’t they say sweets? Meryl
Ah, well Meryl, you know the Poms, unfathomable!!!!!! <VBG Ian
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snipped You need to make allowances, Meryl, there are only 2 or 3 Aussies and a few Poms that would understand "lollies" so it’s easier to go with the flow. But, I do drop in the occasional Strine reference, education by sublimination and stealth sort of thing. <BG Ian Hi Ian, I understand. I lived in North America for a year. They speak a totally different language. True, but we have the advantage of being able to understand most of it because we’re force fed it via the boob tube very day. However I disagree about the Poms. Don’t they say sweets? Meryl Ah, well Meryl, you know the Poms, unfathomable!!!!!! <VBG Ian
I guess we agree there, about the Poms that is! Meryl
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writes Ah, well Meryl, you know the Poms, unfathomable!!!!!! <VBG Ian
I know Ian – we are just too deep for you to understand — Jon Guite When replying by email, please remove the trailing x from my return address
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writes Ah, well Meryl, you know the Poms, unfathomable!!!!!! <VBG Ian I know Ian – we are just too deep for you to understand
Regrettablt not deep enough Jon <sigh, six foot would be better!! hehehe Ian
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writes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes Ah, well Meryl, you know the Poms, unfathomable!!!!!! <VBG Ian I know Ian – we are just too deep for you to understand Regrettablt not deep enough Jon <sigh, six foot would be better!! hehehe Ian
My alter ego, Igor Batfirkle – gentleman vampire, has no problem at all with this — Jon Guite When replying by email, please remove the trailing x from my return address
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snipped Ian, I’m worried. Candy!!!!!! Surely you mean lollies. How long have you been hanging around here? snipped Meryl Some days if seems like forever!!!!! :-) You need to make allowances, Meryl, there are only 2 or 3 Aussies and a few Poms that would understand "lollies" so it’s easier to go with the flow. But, I do drop in the occasional Strine reference, education by sublimination and stealth sort of thing. <BG Ian Hi Ian, I understand. I lived in North America for a year. They speak a totally different language. However I disagree about the Poms. Don’t they say sweets? Meryl
In England a lollie is a sweet on a stick — Jon Guite When replying by email, please remove the trailing x from my return address
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