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"Robbins giving advice on anxiety disorders is pure folly" – EXACTLY! I agree wholeheartedly… He doesn’t know sh*t about my anxiety disorder, so we should brand him a menace to society and have him strung up, and ignore everything he says because he’s obviously clueless about life. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Very interesting… I’ve been wondering if they were any good. I’ve : gotten very different opinions from poeple in here. I think it really : depends on wether you as a person respond to that medium (self help : tapes). I got *alot* of good motivation from Tony Robbins, but try : and mention his name in here and you’ll get slammed. That’s because there is a *big* difference between motivating people with *healthy* anxiety and treating people with an anxiety *disorder*. For someone like Robbins to give advice on anxiety disorders is pure folly. Best Wishes, Arthur
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: Very interesting… I’ve been wondering if they were any good. I’ve : gotten very different opinions from poeple in here. I think it really : depends on wether you as a person respond to that medium (self help : tapes). I got *alot* of good motivation from Tony Robbins, but try : and mention his name in here and you’ll get slammed. That’s because there is a *big* difference between motivating people with *healthy* anxiety and treating people with an anxiety *disorder*. For someone like Robbins to give advice on anxiety disorders is pure folly. Best Wishes, Arthur
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In article I got *alot* of good motivation from Tony Robbins, but try and mention his name in here and you’ll get slammed.
Harold… Only because I assumed that he slammed me first. Jody (not one to take a slam and make it grand)
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Very interesting… I’ve been wondering if they were any good. I’ve gotten very different opinions from poeple in here. I think it really depends on wether you as a person respond to that medium (self help tapes). I got *alot* of good motivation from Tony Robbins, but try and mention his name in here and you’ll get slammed. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m interested if anyone has comments on the Lucinda Bassett self-help tapes. I have the Attacking Anxiety program and I absolutely love them. They give you a different perspective about anxiety and takes the fear away. I’m not where I want to be YET, but trust me – I’m WAY better than I used to be. If I feel scary thoughts coming on, or a little dizziness, I can say to myself "I don’t have time for this right now" and the feelings go away. Just my opinion….
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I’m interested if anyone has comments on the Lucinda Bassett self-help tapes. thanks
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I’m interested if anyone has comments on the Lucinda Bassett self-help tapes.
I have the Attacking Anxiety program and I absolutely love them. They give you a different perspective about anxiety and takes the fear away. I’m not where I want to be YET, but trust me – I’m WAY better than I used to be. If I feel scary thoughts coming on, or a little dizziness, I can say to myself "I don’t have time for this right now" and the feelings go away. Just my opinion….
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I have no doubt that the tapes work well for some people. However, I have to wonder *why* anyone would spend $300 for information and relaxation tapes that they could get for *free* at their local library. If I ever recover fully and completely from PD, I would sell tapes, books, T-shirts, etc. for *rock-bottom, at cost* prices. I wouldn’t try to get rich on the suffering of others.
Excellently put Tony. I really hope these tapes DO work and if anyone has gained benefit from them that’s great. But the profit margin on them is unbelievable!!! Tapes are extremely cheap to reproduce commercially. The gross profit we’re talking here is something like THREE THOUSAND PERCENT!!! In the (English) retail trade a 60 percent gross is average. In my own business if I could persuade people to pay a 3000 percent gross I’d be making a million every few weeks! Expenses must of course be taken into account but please… — ROB… "high mileage but reliable!"
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Well it seems like Lucinda has become the neww whipping girl of ASAP.I like the way people judge other individuals without knowing anything about them.I know Lucinda there is nobody in this group who knows me personally and has no Idea of the struggles I went through for years to try and control my anxiety and Pa’s. Lucinda is a warm and totally dedicated person who went through tremendously horrible bouts with Anxiety and Panic Disorderas well as other debilitating conditions.If someone offered you folks the same opportunities that she has been offered,you’d take it. I am a musician and composer.I’ve been doing this my whole life and I’m going to commercially release a CD for people who suffer from our Ilness.And I hope it does well and I make some money on.I did it because I know through my music I have the power to help people with stress and anxiety.Youcan all put me down for doing this but the fact is that people make money on products that have absolutly no value to human beings and arn’t ashamed of it.Lucinda Bassett has taken her experiences and channeled them into something good.Until you know the history of a person and know them well who are you to be the judge and jury. Respectfully JMiles
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Is it possible that Bassetts’ program just might work for some people with PA’S. If it does and they can get better without meds then they should be applauded. I haven’t ordered her tapes yet but based on the book I plan to oder her tape series. Just because she is good at marketing dosen’t mean it’s a bad program!! If it works for some then others should be happy for them we can all learn from each other by sharing personal experiences.. This sounds more like a tense site as opposed to a support group. Thanks for hearing my opinion!!!!
Three points. Firstly, no one has said that Bassett’s programme doesn’t work – simply that there’s nothing new in it and that she is ripping people off. It is a public service for this to have been pointed out. I am saddened and surprised that you haven’t been able to work this out from the posts in this thread. Secondly, the person to whom I was responding made some scurrilous comments about this newsgroup, which I felt perfectly entitled to comment on in any terms I deemed appropriate. Thirdly, just because this is a support group doesn’t mean people have carte blanche to turn up here, say anything they like and expect everyone else to tolerate with it without demur. — Gary Cooper
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< snip Until you know the history of a person and know them well who are you to be the judge and jury. Respectfully JMiles
Hello JMiles, You are entiltled to your opinion of course, as I am of mine, no matter how wrong I might be. I wish you well in your efforts to *make money* on your CD. Lots of people do. However, this newsgroup is about (IMO) people helping and supporting each other for *free*. If I wanted to pay for it, there’s lots of other places I could go. Regards, John Daly
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Putting on flame retardant costume with THERMOGARD that new fresh idea from COOL IT. I am so glad we are able to argue here, because IRL when I argue I have a panic attack. The following is my opinion which is like many parts of the human psyche. Everyone has them. #1 Lucinda is making money by providing tapes to be heard of basic techniques to overcome Panic Attacks. I have Clare Weeks tapes, which I purchased, and they helped me. Because for me hearing is better. If there was another tape out there I thought could help me and which I know could be played for hours and hours and hours again, I would do it even if that single tape cost $300 and i had the money. #2 One doesn’t advertise on National Cable for free so it would be hard to give these tapes away, even if she was a benevolent soul. #3 We all know advertising is cheaper in the wee hours. But, we all also know who is up in the middle of the night. People who are worried, anxious, maybe working, people with panic attack. So she is targeting her audience by advertising at this hour. #4 I would rather see a Lucinda paid advertisement than some of those other advertisements–i.e, scams. They take your money for nothing. #5 Besides folks, this is the United States, capitalism and all that. We were raised to make a buck and to believe that you get what you pay for. Some people will only follow the advice they pay for and the more they pay, the more they pay attention. OTH Many of you have a point and I am very happy to be in this group. I know that all of us would rather not be taking drugs. Gee, I just know none of us grew up thinking: I want to grow up and take as much aspirin as I can. But, there are some of us who have most probably a genetic disorder that is at the root of Panic Disorder. I know I do. I have family members stretched from here to Adam and Eve with evidence of such. I suspect that I’m not the only one in my family. I think my brother does and my oldest sister. I could be wrong, but they have both done things that suggest that this is true. So..I am not at all adverse to taking drugs if they will alleviate my disorder. I will also stand on my head three hours a day if that would help. …….Freezing and chattering, Marcia removes her flame-retardant garment with Thermogard by COOLIT. Hmmmmm, she thinks, that th-h-h-h–i—ng waaaaaworks a little toooooo well. — Marcia The Soprano’s Page http://members.tripod.com/~Amarilla/index.html
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Appologies, The blasts came in after I Posted. I must be behind a slow server or something. SB
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Well it seems like Lucinda has become the neww whipping girl of ASAP.I like the way people judge other individuals without knowing anything about them.I know Lucinda there is nobody in this group who knows me personally and has no Idea of the struggles I went through for years to try and control my anxiety and Pa’s. Lucinda is a warm and totally dedicated person who went through tremendously horrible bouts with Anxiety and Panic Disorderas well as other debilitating conditions.If someone offered you folks the same opportunities that she has been offered,you’d take it. I am a musician and composer.I’ve been doing this my whole life and I’m going to commercially release a CD for people who suffer from our Ilness.And I hope it does well and I make some money on.I did it because I know through my music I have the power to help people with stress and anxiety.Youcan all put me down for doing this but the fact is that people make money on products that have absolutly no value to human beings and arn’t ashamed of it.Lucinda Bassett has taken her experiences and channeled them into something good.Until you know the history of a person and know them well who are you to be the judge and jury. Respectfully JMiles
Most of the comments I have seen are really geared tward ‘You can get the same information at less expense’. I don’t consider this a SLAM, just trying to save someone some money. Good luck on your CD, I am Also a musician (a hacker really). Your Music is Unique (hopefully, no one else used the exact same cords, progressions and melodies before you did). If they did and sold their CD for $5 less, what would you expect the average consumer to do? I have never heard her Tapes, I did buy her book, specifically because it wasn’t $300+ to get an idea of what she had to offer those of us suffering from PD. I can say I have probably 7 or 8 other books on the subject (all of them use the same Basic ideas). Changing Habit’s, Breathing tech’s, Thought Re-Programming. Yes, some books were $40 others were $19. I felt a $20 difference was worth it. A $200 difference can be alot of money to people. I have never read a specific Blast of Lucinda (maybe one), just the high price for information that is available from a cheaper source. To some this may seem like making alot of profit on peoples misery. To other this may seem reasonable for the cost of packaging all this material. Keep in mind many of those "Get Rich Quick" INFO-Mercials are packaged the same way, Thus …. Seriously, Good luck on your CD, Actually … I’d be interested in Buying and Hearing it 
. SB
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< snip Just because she is good at marketing dosen’t mean it’s a bad program!! If it works for some then others should be happy for them we can all learn from each other by sharing personal experiences.. This sounds more like a tense site as opposed to a support group. Thanks for hearing my opinion!!!!
Hello Rocco and all other Lucinda Fans, Let’s see, sin says that people don’t need drugs, and when some of us disagree, we are no longer a support group. Hmmmmmm. Well most of us like the word medication more than drugs, connotation and things like that. Most of us also don’t like to be told what’s good for us, and what’s bad for us. I prefer medications because they work for me. If you prefer tapes, or CBT, or any form of treatment, that’s great, and thanks for the information. If they work for you that’s wonderful. But please don’t ask me to agree with you. As for Lucinda, I can’t comment on her tapes as I haven’t used them. Personally, I would have great difficulty trusting my mental well being to someone who was harking her wares on late night television along with all the direct marketing schemes, how to buy real estate with no money down schemes, abdomen flattening products, fruit dryers, juicers, and bald spot sprays. But that’s just a personal opinion I don’t expect anyone else to share. Regards, John Daly
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Kendra, You said it better than I could. Ms. Bassett was a singer in a hotel lounge band and was never a true agoraphobic. Low self esteem, maybe! A marketing genius, asolutely!! Believe me, I have researched every aspect of this program and find it a total waste of money. On the Midwest Center hotline for help it is exactly the same as calling the Psychic Network. They throw you a bone when you shell out over $400.00 for the program and then give you 30 minutes of "free calling time." You are not getting a licensed or competent professionsal when you call. After your 30minutes are up, it is $2.99 per minute. I got the book From Panic to Power at the library and thought it was full of platitudes that are basically worthless to the TRUE Panic Disorder/Agoraphobia patient. Page by page and tape by tape of the program is exactly the same as the CHAANGE program which Lucinda(once a Chaange graduate) modeled her program. I am still shocked that a lawsuit didn’t follow because of violation of copyright laws. She did not coin the term "don’t should on yourself." That term originated back in the late seventies by therapist Lou Owensby in treating agoraphobic patients. BRAVO Kendra you nailed it right on the head. Donna
Oh give me a break! Just because Lucinda Basset was smart enough to figure out she could get rich off something like this! I mean, its not total crap. I though the book was pretty good – except for the religious stuff at the end. All Bassett is saying is what any good shrink or therapist would say. She’s just cashing in on America’s crappy healthcare system – giving "professional" care to those who can afford it. I do agree however that paying that kind of money for the whole program is totally out to lunch! If anyone has that kind of money to burn, why not spend it on a good therapist and get proper one-on-one care? Better yet, try looking for a support group in your area. Anyone with a severe panic disorder is better off dealing with a mental health professional first – after that it’s up to them what they do. I think the program would be good to "keep things in check" (but try to find a bootleg copy!) not as an unsupervised treatment for PA. Bassett’s program is one of the few mail order programs that have the potential to work miracles for many people. But it’s up to the individual to make it work for them. Since many people find it hard to dedicate themselves to a do-it-yourself programs, they end up with mixed results. Lucinda should be applauded for recognizing that there’s a sucker born every minute. But don’t applaud her if you are one of them! Thomas
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Geez you guys, I wasn’t angry when I wrote my post, nor was I doing the mood swing thing (haven’t done those in well over 2 years, as a matter of fact). I was simply posting what was my personal opinion. In fact, my husband helped me to write it, and he never gets angry at things. I guess now I see that if you’re a new poster, you’re not allowed to be opinionated in this newsgroup – and you call it lack of proper netiquette. I’ve had several friends and family members read our post, and each one of them expressed mutual surpise that this group would claim that I/we were angry when it was written. Everyone has a right to their opinion, don’t they? I was only stating that I personally don’t believe in medication being the answer to all, and that this group seems to advise people on different medicines more than they help support them with tools they need to recover. I apologize for getting everyone in a tither. That was *not* my intent. I knew perfectly well I’d be flamed, and I have – twice now. Why? For posting my thoughts. I’ve been referred now to tapes 6 & 7 (which are quite wonderful, by the way), but I hope you believe me when I say again: I was not angry (and neither was my husband). We are just concerned with the way this newsgroup heads the newcomers. Re-read my post again, Donna (and J.P.), and you will see which direction I was trying to take this new thread. Have a nice day! :-) Sin Sin, I refer you to Tape 6 Side one and two of the Attacking Anxiety Program. The topic is Stop Being Angry and Control Your Mood Swings. The purpose of this newsgroup is to act as a SUPPORT system and I expressed my opinion on this tape program. Just because it differs from yours does not give you the right to bounce in here and flame me or criticize anyone’s methodology toward getting PD controlled.
<snip Your anger does not set a particularly good tone for ASAP, nor does it help you in any way.
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<stuff snipped I’ve been lurking on this group for a long, long time, and all I see is drugs, drugs, drugs. Gotta have the xanax, gotta have the ativan, etc. Can’t get out of the house without it. Wrong-o! You can – you just won’t, because you don’t have the tools to deal with an anxiety or panic attack.
Then you must have very selective reading processes. There is plenty of advice here about using all sorts of other techniques, including CBT, biofeedback, meditation and others, in addition to the use of medications. Now it’s perfectly true that, on balance, the majority of posts here discuss medication, but why do you suppose that might be? Could it be because that is the treatment that the majority of people here find most helpful? Could it be that there are quite a few people here who have *tried* these purportedly miraculous self-help techniques and found they didn’t work, or didn’t work alone and needed medicational assistance, too? It strikes me as interesting and highly significant that nowhere on this NG do we see anyone so vociferous as the advocates of Ms. Basset’s system. The plain old CBT lobby was didactic enough at times, but la Basset certainly seems to get her hooks into people’s minds. I mean I even receive e-mails from people trying to sell these tapes to me. Why is this? Does she practice brainwashing? Does she pay commission? Why do you suppose it might be that others who have achieved equally good results with other approaches don’t do the same thing? You see, what this makes me wonder is if it takes a certain mind-set for Ms. Basset’s over-priced re-packaging of ancient techniques to work. I wonder if that mind-set is well, shall we say gullible? And whether that mind-set *has* to have faith for this sort of stuff to stick? And, faith being the sort of thing it is, whether it can only be sustained when it’s being preached? What Donna, to whom you were replying (and who knows more about PD research than 90% of the people on this NG were saying) wasn’t that Basset’s system doesn’t work, but that there is nothing new in it, that it is over-priced and that if people want to try the same techniques they can do so for a hell of a lot less money. Now what, precisely, is your problem with that? — Gary Cooper
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez you guys, I wasn’t angry when I wrote my post, nor was I doing the mood swing thing (haven’t done those in well over 2 years, as a matter of fact). I was simply posting what was my personal opinion. In fact, my husband helped me to write it, and he never gets angry at things. I guess now I see that if you’re a new poster, you’re not allowed to be opinionated in this newsgroup – and you call it lack of proper netiquette. I’ve had several friends and family members read our post, and each one of them expressed mutual surpise that this group would claim that I/we were angry when it was written. Everyone has a right to their opinion, don’t they? I was only stating that I personally don’t believe in medication being the answer to all, and that this group seems to advise people on different medicines more than they help support them with tools they need to recover. I apologize for getting everyone in a tither. That was *not* my intent. I knew perfectly well I’d be flamed, and I have – twice now. Why? For posting my thoughts. I’ve been referred now to tapes 6 & 7 (which are quite wonderful, by the way), but I hope you believe me when I say again: I was not angry (and neither was my husband). We are just concerned with the way this newsgroup heads the newcomers. Re-read my post again, Donna (and J.P.), and you will see which direction I was trying to take this new thread. Have a nice day! :-) Sin
Hey, Sin, Dont lump me in with those others! Theres a particular intolerance to anything other then mainstream thought on ASAP I’v noticed. There seems to be a handfull of self-proclaimed experts, that are very opinionated and rather narrow minded. I own these tapes(I did not pay $300 for them)their sitting on my bookshelf. I never stated if I thought they worked or not! I personally dont give a shit what works for someone, nor do I give a shit what other people think, what they think of me or what I do. I was honest about wanting to know how these tapes helped you, the rest of my post I was just messing with you. I tell you what, if these tapes would help me even 10%, they would be worth more then $300! People are constantly reinventing the wheel, and profiting from it, thats life. Most the people on this NG would do the same thing if given the chance. Most the drugs used by the people on ASAP are "ancient therapies" that cost,over time, much more then $300, and I dont hear anyone here knocking the use of drugs, and for all the people here who love to read things into post, I DO NOT MEAN THAT ANYONE SHOULD KNOCK THE USE OF What ever gets you through the night! JS
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Gary, Articulate and Accurate you are, my friend. Surely, I must be the Donna the individual was referring to because I am outspoken on this thread. I did not see the post relating to me. Would someone please post it, if you see it again, so I can address it? Frankly, I shouldn’t bother wasting precious time and bandwich on this AA program and its guru. Have a great day all! Donna
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Hey, if your pissed off, never end your post with "Thank you", too passive, they’ll never respect you! Go back and read session seven. What about the midwest tapes helped you? I guess it’s not true that you get what you pay for.
<snip No, not pissed off, just amused/disgusted(?) (there is a difference, J.P…) by the fact that this newsgroup always centers around drug use for the recovery of agoraphobia, and that’s what people don’t need. They need tools to help them recover. Like the lady who was going to fly. You all recommended taking ativan. Now, she’s on it, only to become dependent upon the medication instead of herself to accomplish things. And ativan is very addictive, as you know. I was on it for over 5 years myself, only to get off the medication after the tapes. I am now medication free, and accomplishing new things every day – by myself. The tapes have helped me to become a fully recovering agoraphobic after 8 years of pure hell being locked in my house. They give you the tools you need to deal with a panic attack, welcoming them instead of running from them. Once a person gets to that point, it is a very long road indeed, but one that is worthwhile if anyone is ever going to get over this awful condition. They teach you that *nobody* around you (or a place, for that matter) is a "safety person." *You* are your own safety person. They also teach a person how to be more aggressive, and not back down when they have a point to make. I knew I was going to get flamed on what I had to say – so what? That’s what newsgroups are all about, right? As far as saying "thank you?" Well, I really didn’t know how else to sign it, to be perfectly honest with you. :-) I would say that I got what I paid for, J.P.. Everyone (including myself) around me has noticed the differences, the will to fight now, as it were; before, I used to sit at home and wonder where the world was going. Now I get out and explore it (by myself), and am learning that the world isn’t such a bad-ass scary place after all! :-) Have a nice day! Sin
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By the way Sin, I did do the program, so you see I was not not knocking something I, "did not try myself." I also read Panic to Power. I would never give an opinion about something that I know nothing about. Donna
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Sin, I refer you to Tape 6 Side one and two of the Attacking Anxiety Program. The topic is Stop Being Angry and Control Your Mood Swings. The purpose of this newsgroup is to act as a SUPPORT system and I expressed my opinion on this tape program. Just because it differs from yours does not give you the right to bounce in here and flame me or criticize anyone’s methodology toward getting PD controlled. We all have the right to disagree, but we have manage to do it with civility and class. Your anger does not set a particularly good tone for ASAP, nor does it help you in any way. You are not the only one on here who has been housebound and agoraphobic, many of us have been and some still are. We all believe that we have to do whatever it takes to get well. It is great that you found the answer in this program. Many of us need medication to control our brain chemistry imbalances similar to the diabetic taking insulin. We couple that, if needed with CBT or other exposure therapy. In an ideal situation, agoraphobia might be able to be controlled by therapy alone. However, all the latest research indicates multiple treatment modalities. Some work and some don’t. It depends on the individual. I also refer you to the area of proper netiquette. Surely your future posts will be helpful, positive, and polite. Donna
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <stuff snipped I’ve been lurking on this group for a long, long time, and all I see is drugs, drugs, drugs. Gotta have the xanax, gotta have the ativan, etc. Can’t get out of the house without it. Wrong-o! You can – you just won’t, because you don’t have the tools to deal with an anxiety or panic attack. Then you must have very selective reading processes. There is plenty of advice here about using all sorts of other techniques, including CBT, biofeedback, meditation and others, in addition to the use of medications. Now it’s perfectly true that, on balance, the majority of posts here discuss medication, but why do you suppose that might be? Could it be because that is the treatment that the majority of people here find most helpful? Could it be that there are quite a few people here who have *tried* these purportedly miraculous self-help techniques and found they didn’t work, or didn’t work alone and needed medicational assistance, too? It strikes me as interesting and highly significant that nowhere on this NG do we see anyone so vociferous as the advocates of Ms. Basset’s system. The plain old CBT lobby was didactic enough at times, but la Basset certainly seems to get her hooks into people’s minds. I mean I even receive e-mails from people trying to sell these tapes to me. Why is this? Does she practice brainwashing? Does she pay commission? Why do you suppose it might be that others who have achieved equally good results with other approaches don’t do the same thing? You see, what this makes me wonder is if it takes a certain mind-set for Ms. Basset’s over-priced re-packaging of ancient techniques to work. I wonder if that mind-set is well, shall we say gullible? And whether that mind-set *has* to have faith for this sort of stuff to stick? And, faith being the sort of thing it is, whether it can only be sustained when it’s being preached? What Donna, to whom you were replying (and who knows more about PD research than 90% of the people on this NG were saying) wasn’t that Basset’s system doesn’t work, but that there is nothing new in it, that it is over-priced and that if people want to try the same techniques they can do so for a hell of a lot less money. Now what, precisely, is your problem with that? — Gary CooperIs it possible that Bassetts’ program just might work for some people
with PA’S. If it does and they can get better without meds then they should be applauded. I haven’t ordered her tapes yet but based on the book I plan to oder her tape series. Just because she is good at marketing dosen’t mean it’s a bad program!! If it works for some then others should be happy for them we can all learn from each other by sharing personal experiences.. This sounds more like a tense site as opposed to a support group. Thanks for hearing my opinion!!!!
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As I’ve said here before, it is a clone of CHAANGE and very expensive. In my opinion, your money will be better spent on the Net, with people who TRULY have panic disorder, and know the territory well. Our pockets are not being lined by alleged cures and together we know a hell of a lot more then the Attacking Anxiety Program. By the way, Lucinda lives in Southern California now, NOT Toledo, Ohio. All I can say is don’t bother with it.
I’ve just started reading Lucinda’s book, From Panic to Power. Why would anyone spend money for the tapes when you can get the book for free from the library? Besides, IMO this person never had agoraphobia. She says she did, but then in the book she always says, "I was never comfortable travelling." Not comfortable while trapsing all over the country and out of the country, going on trains, onto the 15th floor of hotels, is a very different thing from not being able to leave an area for a long period of time. She also says, "I somehow stayed in the corporate world, I somehow stayed successful." She "somehow" never stopped doing anything, she somehow still went out with friends, and lead a very normal life. I feel very betrayed by this book. She constantly says only a fellow sufferer can help you, but I feel she is in no way a fellow sufferer. I think she had some discomfort, but Panic Disorder? Not by my definition. Basically, all the CBT books say the same thing: take baby steps, breathe and don’t leave the scene, and think positive thoughts while giving yourself lots of praise for accomplishments. There. I just saved you all $300 or more. -Kendra P.S. There are some good things in the book, reminders, perhaps. It’s probably worth reading for some people.
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Kendra, You said it better than I could. Ms. Bassett was a singer in a hotel lounge band and was never a true agoraphobic. Low self esteem, maybe! A marketing genius, asolutely!! Believe me, I have researched every aspect of this program and find it a total waste of money. On the Midwest Center hotline for help it is exactly the same as calling the Psychic Network. They throw you a bone when you shell out over $400.00 for the program and then give you 30 minutes of "free calling time." You are not getting a licensed or competent professionsal when you call. After your 30minutes are up, it is $2.99 per minute. I got the book From Panic to Power at the library and thought it was full of platitudes that are basically worthless to the TRUE Panic Disorder/Agoraphobia patient. Page by page and tape by tape of the program is exactly the same as the CHAANGE program which Lucinda(once a Chaange graduate) modeled her program. I am still shocked that a lawsuit didn’t follow because of violation of copyright laws. She did not coin the term "don’t should on yourself." That term originated back in the late seventies by therapist Lou Owensby in treating agoraphobic patients. BRAVO Kendra you nailed it right on the head. Donna
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As I’ve said here before, it is a clone of CHAANGE and very expensive. In my opinion, your money will be better spent on the Net, with people who TRULY have panic disorder, and know the territory well.
Hmmm, funny. I WAS (read that closely – WAS) a terrified *homebound* agoraphobic for 8 years. Spent over 6 months of that time in psych wards and well over $120,000 on the hospital and shrinks, only to be put on medication and left to rot in my house. Got the tapes (Attacking Anxiety), and was far better by the fourth tape than any drug, hospital or shrink could have EVER gotten me. I’ve been lurking on this group for a long, long time, and all I see is drugs, drugs, drugs. Gotta have the xanax, gotta have the ativan, etc. Can’t get out of the house without it. Wrong-o! You can – you just won’t, because you don’t have the tools to deal with an anxiety or panic attack. See, what you guys on this group don’t understand is that it’s an idividual process. Don’t go telling the "newbies" that they need drugs – that’s like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound that needs a hundred stiches!! I am not recovered by any means, and I don’t plan on being fully "recovered" for quite some time yet. It took one helluva long time to step into anxiety/panic/agoraphobia, and it’s gonna take a helluva long time to get back out. BUT! At least the tapes give you the tools to do so. Remember: there is no overnight cure, nor is there magic pixie dust to be thrown over your head and WHAM!, you’re recovered. It doesn’t work that way, unfortunate as that may be. I have no idea whether or not Lucinda Bassett was fully agoraphibic or not, but excuse me – WHO CARES??? She has a program that has helped me, and I’m happy I found them. I wish I had found them years ago, when I was first crawling into the clutches of agoraphobia, having to give up a wonderful career and a lot more. I also wish I had found out that it took only $300 to get on my way to recovery, rather than spend over $100K of my own money. As far as the book goes – I thought it was great, but it didn’t have even 1/4 the amount of information as on the tapes. But, there are people on their way to recovery every day from reading that book. Let them, for cryin’ out loud – at least they’re trying something!! Bottom line: let people recover however THEY need to recover – not how YOU think it ought to be done. Give advice, yes, but don’t knock something that might work for somebody else, but you haven’t even tried yourself. Thank you.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As I’ve said here before, it is a clone of CHAANGE and very expensive. In my opinion, your money will be better spent on the Net, with people who TRULY have panic disorder, and know the territory well. Hmmm, funny. I WAS (read that closely – WAS) a terrified *homebound* agoraphobic for 8 years. Spent over 6 months of that time in psych wards and well over $120,000 on the hospital and shrinks, only to be put on medication and left to rot in my house. Got the tapes (Attacking Anxiety), and was far better by the fourth tape than any drug, hospital or shrink could have EVER gotten me. I’ve been lurking on this group for a long, long time, and all I see is drugs, drugs, drugs. Gotta have the xanax, gotta have the ativan, etc. Can’t get out of the house without it. Wrong-o! You can – you just won’t, because you don’t have the tools to deal with an anxiety or panic attack. See, what you guys on this group don’t understand is that it’s an idividual process. Don’t go telling the "newbies" that they need drugs – that’s like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound that needs a hundred stiches!! I am not recovered by any means, and I don’t plan on being fully "recovered" for quite some time yet. It took one helluva long time to step into anxiety/panic/agoraphobia, and it’s gonna take a helluva long time to get back out. BUT! At least the tapes give you the tools to do so. Remember: there is no overnight cure, nor is there magic pixie dust to be thrown over your head and WHAM!, you’re recovered. It doesn’t work that way, unfortunate as that may be. I have no idea whether or not Lucinda Bassett was fully agoraphibic or not, but excuse me – WHO CARES??? She has a program that has helped me, and I’m happy I found them. I wish I had found them years ago, when I was first crawling into the clutches of agoraphobia, having to give up a wonderful career and a lot more. I also wish I had found out that it took only $300 to get on my way to recovery, rather than spend over $100K of my own money. As far as the book goes – I thought it was great, but it didn’t have even 1/4 the amount of information as on the tapes. But, there are people on their way to recovery every day from reading that book. Let them, for cryin’ out loud – at least they’re trying something!! Bottom line: let people recover however THEY need to recover – not how YOU think it ought to be done. Give advice, yes, but don’t knock something that might work for somebody else, but you haven’t even tried yourself. Thank you.
Hey, if your pissed off, never end your post with "Thank you", too passive, they’ll never respect you! Go back and read session seven. What about the midwest tapes helped you? I guess it’s not true that you get what you pay for.
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Anyone familiar with Lucinda Bassett book and tape program for overcoming Anxiety??
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As I’ve said here before, it is a clone of CHAANGE and very expensive. In my opinion, your money will be better spent on the Net, with people who TRULY have panic disorder, and know the territory well. Our pockets are not being lined by alleged cures and together we know a hell of a lot more then the Attacking Anxiety Program. By the way, Lucinda lives in Southern California now, NOT Toledo, Ohio. All I can say is don’t bother with it.
Do what I did, order it, copy the written material, tape to tape the audio, then send it back for a full refund. You pay shipping, but thats all its worth anywho.
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As I’ve said here before, it is a clone of CHAANGE and very expensive. In my opinion, your money will be better spent on the Net, with people who TRULY have panic disorder, and know the territory well. Our pockets are not being lined by alleged cures and together we know a hell of a lot more then the Attacking Anxiety Program. By the way, Lucinda lives in Southern California now, NOT Toledo, Ohio. All I can say is don’t bother with it.
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Hi, I am of the total opposite opinion of these two other folks.Lucinda has dedicated her life to helping people overcome anxiety.What is it anybodies business where she lives .She’s worked hard and she deserves it I have used her program and it was an extremely valuable tool that helped me overcome my sever anxiety and panic.Spending the money is up to you. A therapist costs that for 2 sessions and I know a few therapists who recommend her course.For every 10 people that don’t agree with her course there are literally hundreds who rave about it.I don’t appoligize for being biased because I am. I am not trying to start a back and forth argument I am just expressing my opinion Peace JMiles
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