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Hi folks: I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB alone? Thanx -frizz — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hi folks: I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB alone? Thanx -frizz
Hi Frizzie. I could well believe there are people like this. Some people’s PAs are certainly caused by their thoughts/phobias/fears etc. They are the lucky ones IMO. It is possible for most people to change their thinking patterns with CBT. Sadly for many (most?) people, their attacks have a genetic component and screwy brain-chemistry is involved. Not so easy to fix that with talk I guess. I am in the latter catagory. What I wouldn’t give to have a nice simple phobia!! 
— _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I agree with TJ here. If you’ve got a fear of bridges or spiders or bowling balls or something it seems like there are tried-and-true methods to eliminating these kind of PA’s. I wish it were that simple for me. I don’t think talking therapy is worth anything at all. Bourne’s book never did me any good either. All his ideas on how to defuse a PA just seemed like so much BS to me. — Doug
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi folks: I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB alone? Thanx -frizz Hi Frizzie. I could well believe there are people like this. Some people’s PAs are certainly caused by their thoughts/phobias/fears etc. They are the lucky ones IMO. It is possible for most people to change their thinking patterns with CBT. Sadly for many (most?) people, their attacks have a genetic component and screwy brain-chemistry is involved. Not so easy to fix that with talk I guess. I am in the latter catagory. What I wouldn’t give to have a nice simple phobia!! — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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im not sure how good CBT works. i definately think it has helped me with catastophizing, and some of my core beliefs about the ramifications of life with panic/anxiety. ive been going for about 2 years now. i was up and down the last couple of years, and i got to a point to where the CBT only could do the job so much. the therapist said it might be a good idea for me to try meds to get myself in a better mind space, so that the CBT could be better absorbed. i think the lexapro has helped a bit more then the therapy though. but its hard to say. its all so confusing to figure out when you feel better on your own, or if its the meds, or the therapy. russ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I agree with TJ here. If you’ve got a fear of bridges or spiders or bowling balls or something it seems like there are tried-and-true methods to eliminating these kind of PA’s. I wish it were that simple for me. I don’t think talking therapy is worth anything at all. Bourne’s book never did me any good either. All his ideas on how to defuse a PA just seemed like so much BS to me. — Doug Hi folks: I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB alone? Thanx -frizz Hi Frizzie. I could well believe there are people like this. Some people’s PAs are certainly caused by their thoughts/phobias/fears etc. They are the lucky ones IMO. It is possible for most people to change their thinking patterns with CBT. Sadly for many (most?) people, their attacks have a genetic component and screwy brain-chemistry is involved. Not so easy to fix that with talk I guess. I am in the latter catagory. What I wouldn’t give to have a nice simple phobia!! — _TJ_ <TJ_IREL at YAHOO dot IE — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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::I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of ::the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks ::are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. :: :: ::Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB ::alone? Dear Frizzie, I was able to for a few years, but had a severe setback from 96-98 where CBT just didn`t cut it anymore. I am positive it was my thyroid disorder that triggered the setback. Now I need Paxil and CBT to keep the panic monster at bay 
Jackie ~*~I`m an angel! Honest The horns are just there to keep my halo up straight~*~ — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hi folks: I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB alone?
I do. In the past thirty years I have seen about 40% of those I work with be able to do so as well. Some may use meds sporadically, or for periods of time or forever. All "treatments" are basically tools-some tools work better then others for different people-I do know that the therapists’ skill and interpersonal ability allow for much better treatement outcomes. CBT and REBT have been shown over and over to be helpful for all types of patients with all kinds of conditions. I used medications for years with very little sucess Now in any given year I may use a benzo a few times to reduce some residual anxiety I cannot get a good handle on. I watch what I eat, excercise, try and get enough sleep and do rebt abc’s every day for about a half hour -I now control anxiety it does not control me. At one time I was housebound having panic twenty four hours a day and ready to kill myself-now I choose to kill myself with as much life as I can-it is crucial to find the right therapist who can work with you as an ally a teacher and a guide as well as a source of support and comfort-a good doc will get you to feel better when you leave the office, if you don’t then he (she) isn’t right for you-you will learn how to make yourself feel better in time by changing the core systems of irrational beliefs you desperately hold onto. This is a "can do" regardless of what anyone tells you-I have witnessed it over and over Thanx -frizz
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hi, I tried CBT but it did nor work for me. Maybe I did it sporadically or maybe my thoughts move too fast or maybe because I majored in Psychology I was abit over-analytical. CBT owes it origins to Mindful Meditation developed by the Buddha in India over 2,000 years ago. (It is tough but do-able.) I have realized that I have laughed at and ignored my own country’s 5,000 year culture much to my detriment. The thing is there are many frauds operating now in India and over the years they have distorted simple techniques and exercises to con people. I met a lady today in the park who went of Valium after being on it for 10 years just through Pranayama. She is giving me a copy of how breathing changes the bio-chemistry of the brain and how we can later it through simple Pranyama exercises. Of course once again I will put it again under my logical scanner! More later, Sunil – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi folks: I just watched a cable TV special on panic disorder and at least 2 of the 5-6 people who were interviewed claimed that their panic attacks are under control because of the CB they were/are receiving — no meds. Is anyone here able to control their panic attacks/anxiety with CB alone? I do. In the past thirty years I have seen about 40% of those I work with be able to do so as well. Some may use meds sporadically, or for periods of time or forever. All "treatments" are basically tools-some tools work better then others for different people-I do know that the therapists’ skill and interpersonal ability allow for much better treatement outcomes. CBT and REBT have been shown over and over to be helpful for all types of patients with all kinds of conditions. I used medications for years with very little sucess Now in any given year I may use a benzo a few times to reduce some residual anxiety I cannot get a good handle on. I watch what I eat, excercise, try and get enough sleep and do rebt abc’s every day for about a half hour -I now control anxiety it does not control me. At one time I was housebound having panic twenty four hours a day and ready to kill myself-now I choose to kill myself with as much life as I can-it is crucial to find the right therapist who can work with you as an ally a teacher and a guide as well as a source of support and comfort-a good doc will get you to feel better when you leave the office, if you don’t then he (she) isn’t right for you-you will learn how to make yourself feel better in time by changing the core systems of irrational beliefs you desperately hold onto. This is a "can do" regardless of what anyone tells you-I have witnessed it over and over Thanx -frizz
– The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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