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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Well, back to work…. Once I learned how to deal with PA’s, and to just go with the flow, they were the least of my problems. It was the constant anxiety that was getting to me, along with those spinning thoughts that wouldn’t go away. I felt like a dog chasing its tail. Fortunately my meds have me well in control, but I know what you’re talking about.
Constant anxiety for me deepens my depression which I have had for many years. Managing anxiety for me is akin to trying to balance a bowling ball on the head of a pin even when taking medications. Then throw in the odd PA now and then…. Sounds like some of this may be hereditary, like me, too, and most is probably you. And nobody can understand unless they’ve been there. They can be supportive, but they just don’t have a clue, as you say.
I think that heredity can play a very big part in all of these disorders. There is a strong case to be made for it in my family. Cluelessness is very difficult to deal with. If you find a perfect way of dealing with it, I would sure like to know how. Ron P Dep OCD GAD Pd Ag (I thought that I could use some letters after my name;) ) — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ::I know. I can tell you, however, that before July 2005, my life was ::very extremely happy for about ten years. No anxiety, depression, ::insomnia, or obsessive thoughts. Health was excellent. Work was ::enjoyable. Business was growing and money was coming in fast. Life was ::too good. It wasn’t a perfect life, but it was truly blissful. You ::folks have had anxiety/depression and have learned to adjust. My ::anxiety/depression is a total shock and interruption to what was in the ::recent past a quite blissful life. Many posters here would tell you that their life was good before anxiety/panic/depression blind-sided them out of no where. Not only were we dealing with the devastating effects of a nasty disorder but mourning the loss of a life that we had once known. I understand the shock you are feeling. I know your pain. ::Gosh, I feel for you. I never knew what I have had until I lost it last ::July. I think many people would say that. All the things we took for granted. Now I appreciate those things so much more now. ::I lost a precious ten years of a very happy life. I can’t trade that ::because that is gone. ::I hope that medication and lifestyle changes will get me back to ::recovery and bring that happiness back. I hope and pray that your life ::will become better. Marie, you cannot lose years you`ve already had. Those wonderful, blissful ten years are yours forever. Nothing ever can…. or will change that. What you are experiencing now is a temporary interruption, a slump, a setback. Life will get better again. Good times don`t last forever, neither do the bad ones. Jackie ~*~Forget love, I’d rather fall in chocolate~*~
Marie, I echo what Jackie said. I had *NO* mental illness until the age of 40, five years ago, so I too, do understand what it is like to be "normal" (ha! – whatever THAT is). It would have been nice if I hadn’t developed what I developed, but at least what I have is treatable, and not something else. There are many people who don’t have what I have to deal with, but maybe they have something I would consider worse. It’s all relative. I’d rather have this, than cancer or diabetes, or ..well, you can make your own list of things that could be worse than the disorder you have. And nothing here stays the same. You can always count on the fact that things change, and we are very adaptable. You’ll be surprised what you can learn to live with. I know, if I sat down and really thought about what all I have been through, I’d either start feeling very sorry for myself, or I’d start feeling very good, because I’ve been through a lot, both internally, with mental illness, and externally with great big life altering events that would have been horrible for anyone. I’ve come out a better person for having gone through bad times. I had no idea I was so strong until I survived some stuff that I couldn’t believe I survived. You will have good times again. You may even have better days ahead than you have behind you. You have no idea what the future holds, so don’t be so convinced otherwise. You are still kind of new to having a diagnoses, so over time, and it may not be as long as you think — you will learn to adapt, and you won’t be constantly looking back on what was. When you spend a lot of your time pining away for the past, you miss today, and there is an opportunity somewhere today to be happy. I think going through really bad times gives you a true appreciation for the good times. I bet those years that you now see as wonderful — well, you probably didn’t really appreciate them when you were living them as much as you do now. I have lost just about all of my family, and I have such wonderful memories of them — but at the time they were living, I didn’t really appreciate what I had the way that I do now that they are gone. That’s just how it works. Just put one foot in front of the other, and eventually things get better. Sometimes it takes work on our part, but you do it a step at a time, and not all at once. (((Marie))) It’s not a death sentence.. just a hurdle you will learn to deal with in time. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Marie, Nobody has a "perfect life". That’s impossible, on this planet.
I know. I can tell you, however, that before July 2005, my life was very extremely happy for about ten years. No anxiety, depression, insomnia, or obsessive thoughts. Health was excellent. Work was enjoyable. Business was growing and money was coming in fast. Life was too good. It wasn’t a perfect life, but it was truly blissful. You folks have had anxiety/depression and have learned to adjust. My anxiety/depression is a total shock and interruption to what was in the recent past a quite blissful life. I sure don’t. I have (in order of the extent to which they cripple me) GAD, PD, Depression, and at times I’m psychotic, and have to be hauled off to a mental hospital about once a year or so.
Gosh, I feel for you. I never knew what I have had until I lost it last July. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My life? Well.. right now, a close family member is dying, and I’m trying to help her and her husband, he’s not well himself, and he is trying to take care of her at home. She is in denial that she is dying, and it is a bad situation. At the same time, my first grandchild will be here any day now, and she’ll be premature, so that is another worry. I lost my mother last 11 days before Christmas last year. I lived with her for most of my life, and it was a huge loss for me — biggest one of my life, so far. I also am in the process of selling my house that I have lived in about 11 years now. It is a huge house (3,000 square feet) and I have to keep it immaculate, because sometimes I only get a moments notice that someone wants to look at it. I also have a puppy that will eat the couch and anything else that is not nailed down if I do not keep an eye on her. She’s sweet, but she is RESPONSIBILITY with all capital letters, a full time job. I also am in the process of training for a job, and that takes up about 4-5 hours of my day.
I’m sorry about your losses, but I also wish you the best in your job training. Wanna trade lives?? 
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I know you meant this in jest, but to be serious for a moment: There’s nothing to trade. I lost a precious ten years of a very happy life. I can’t trade that because that is gone. I hope that medication and lifestyle changes will get me back to recovery and bring that happiness back. I hope and pray that your life will become better. …but I can tell you that this is a *G*R*E*A*T group of people, even if you don’t have panic disorder.. many of us here have multiple diagnoses. I’m glad you are posting. Keep coming back. It’s nice here. Welcome to the group.
Thank you. Sally
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Well, back to work….
Marie, Nobody has a "perfect life". That’s impossible, on this planet. I sure don’t. I have (in order of the extent to which they cripple me) GAD, PD, Depression, and at times I’m psychotic, and have to be hauled off to a mental hospital about once a year or so. My life? Well.. right now, a close family member is dying, and I’m trying to help her and her husband, he’s not well himself, and he is trying to take care of her at home. She is in denial that she is dying, and it is a bad situation. At the same time, my first grandchild will be here any day now, and she’ll be premature, so that is another worry. I lost my mother last 11 days before Christmas last year. I lived with her for most of my life, and it was a huge loss for me — biggest one of my life, so far. I also am in the process of selling my house that I have lived in about 11 years now. It is a huge house (3,000 square feet) and I have to keep it immaculate, because sometimes I only get a moments notice that someone wants to look at it. I also have a puppy that will eat the couch and anything else that is not nailed down if I do not keep an eye on her. She’s sweet, but she is RESPONSIBILITY with all capital letters, a full time job. I also am in the process of training for a job, and that takes up about 4-5 hours of my day. Wanna trade lives?? )) I do not know whether I am coming or going.. but I can tell you that this is a *G*R*E*A*T group of people, even if you don’t have panic disorder.. many of us here have multiple diagnoses. I’m glad you are posting. Keep coming back. It’s nice here. Welcome to the group. Sally — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Well, back to work…. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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From a somewhat fused medical and philosophic point of view, pain is
singular. The pain of a failed relationship, that of a panic attack, a pet killed, a hammer accidentally hitting a finger very hard, stubbing the toe, breaking the leg – the list is probably almost infinite. The person experiencing any one of those things is in a unique pain, perceived uniquely by them at that time. None can really be compared with any real accuracy to any of the others. Some psychological pain is worse than the worst kind of physical pain. Thankfully, pleasure shares the same singular character, in many ways. Gary
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …I have a terrible fear that I may be one who makes you think that panic disorder is easier to cope with than other disorders. I have a fear that folks here think I am trying to get people here to tell me how bad their lives are. Not so! I just asked for some encouragement. I do post a lot about exciting things I am doing, but my life is not all sunshine and flowers. I choose to force myself beyond my boundaries, because it is how I deal with things. Daily, I deal with a LOT of generalized, obsessive anxiety. I also have periodic bouts of moderate to severe depression and panic. Most of the time I choose not to talk about those things because that’s how I work. Example: when my grandfather (my dad’s father) died, I called my mother (parents are divorced) and her mother to see if THEY were okay. They are not even blood related to my grandfather and had not seen him in years! I am just like that–I deny my own pain to the point of absurdity. Okay…see how we can often have a distorted view of others peoples’ lives? You are undoubtedly very caring for having called your mother and grandmother after your paternal grandfather passed away. That’s caring. I hope that you will stick around here, because many of us are dealing with depression and I know there are some OCD people here as well. Often these disorders go hand in hand. I would be very sad to see you leave, and I really hope I am not part of the cause. Absolutely not. Actually, it has nothing to do with folks here as much as the folks who were in my PDoc’s office. They all looked so blissful. Thought distortion, you know. Thanks for sharing. I’m just so new to this and I don’t want it! (Major temper tantrum here.) — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Well, back to work….
Once I learned how to deal with PA’s, and to just go with the flow, they were the least of my problems. It was the constant anxiety that was getting to me, along with those spinning thoughts that wouldn’t go away. I felt like a dog chasing its tail. Fortunately my meds have me well in control, but I know what you’re talking about. Sounds like some of this may be hereditary, like me, too, and most is probably you. And nobody can understand unless they’ve been there. They can be supportive, but they just don’t have a clue, as you say. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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…I have a terrible fear that I may be one who makes you think that panic disorder is easier to cope with than other disorders.
I have a fear that folks here think I am trying to get people here to tell me how bad their lives are. Not so! I just asked for some encouragement. I do post a lot about exciting things I am doing, but my life is not all sunshine and flowers. I choose to force myself beyond my boundaries, because it is how I deal with things. Daily, I deal with a LOT of generalized, obsessive anxiety. I also have periodic bouts of moderate to severe depression and panic. Most of the time I choose not to talk about those things because that’s how I work. Example: when my grandfather (my dad’s father) died, I called my mother (parents are divorced) and her mother to see if THEY were okay. They are not even blood related to my grandfather and had not seen him in years! I am just like that–I deny my own pain to the point of absurdity.
Okay…see how we can often have a distorted view of others peoples’ lives? You are undoubtedly very caring for having called your mother and grandmother after your paternal grandfather passed away. That’s caring. I hope that you will stick around here, because many of us are dealing with depression and I know there are some OCD people here as well. Often these disorders go hand in hand. I would be very sad to see you leave, and I really hope I am not part of the cause.
Absolutely not. Actually, it has nothing to do with folks here as much as the folks who were in my PDoc’s office. They all looked so blissful. Thought distortion, you know. Thanks for sharing. I’m just so new to this and I don’t want it! (Major temper tantrum here.) — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions.
I have panic disorder and OCD (or at least alot of symptoms of it). ABout 25% of people with panic disorder have OCD. Chip — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Well, back to work….
Marie, I read your post and all the replies, and I have a terrible fear that I may be one who makes you think that panic disorder is easier to cope with than other disorders. I do post a lot about exciting things I am doing, but my life is not all sunshine and flowers. I choose to force myself beyond my boundaries, because it is how I deal with things. Daily, I deal with a LOT of generalized, obsessive anxiety. I also have periodic bouts of moderate to severe depression and panic. Most of the time I choose not to talk about those things because that’s how I work. Example: when my grandfather (my dad’s father) died, I called my mother (parents are divorced) and her mother to see if THEY were okay. They are not even blood related to my grandfather and had not seen him in years! I am just like that–I deny my own pain to the point of absurdity. I just wanted to explain where I am coming from. I understand OCD and depression are horrible. Depression I know about first hand, as I’ve had it most of my life. OCD, I can only imagine. I have bouts of obsessive behavior (mostly related to cleanliness) and they just about drive me over the edge, so I can understand how full-blown OCD would be just awful. I hope that you will stick around here, because many of us are dealing with depression and I know there are some OCD people here as well. Often these disorders go hand in hand. I would be very sad to see you leave, and I really hope I am not part of the cause. (((((((((((((Marie))))))))))))) Love, Dawn — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever.
<snipped It looks like everyone said just about everything, I hope tomorrow is better. I’m just taking this chance to say hello and welcome to asapm. Tono — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over.
Please don’t feel out of place here. We all have a similar illness, though it can show its ugly head in different ways. You might not have text book "Panic Disorder", but your symptoms sound familiar to me. I have had to deal with those racing thoughts of worry which causes anxiety and for me can lead to a panic attack. Dealing with those symptoms even for a few days is enough to make anyone depressed. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think.
This is a good support group : ) None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago.
I can relate. My wife is lucky and doesn’t understand what it is like to have panic/anxiety/depression junk. However I do have my father who has suffered similar symptoms since he was only 15. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions.
So then stay here 
We don’t all have to be exactly the same to understand what each other deals with. I am sure most people here can relate to obsessing over something to where is causes anxiety/panic. Well, back to work….
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A lot of posters here (unintentionally) give me the impression that life is hunky-dory with Panic Disorder. Hence the "grass is greener" mode. Sorry. : (
No need to be sorry Don’t take it as an impression that life is hunky-dory from the posters here. Think of it as: this is *OUR* place to *BE NORMAL*. I can post here about sports (like I know anything about sports), how my day was, advice on dealing with my condition, maybe post something silly my daughter did, etc. I love when people post there "happy" posts about, well about anything. I think it is important for all of us to share, share the good stuff and the bad. When you have a good day, or even a good minute, post about it. When you have a bad day, post about it. We need to be here to help one another or else there is no point in ASAPM. I will do what I can to help others here and I hope others will do the same for me : ) Best, Jim — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I’m so sorry you feel out of place here, Marie. I hope we didn’t give you that impression.
No, not at all! I have OCD too, but other disorders also. :-) I hope you at least feel safe with us. We’re here any time you need to talk or vent. Can I ask what other disorders you have? I’m hoping I can help even if it’s in a small way. {{{{{Marie}}}}}
Thank you for your encouragement, Diane. I have obsessions centered around themes of losing control, and compulsions with symmetry/placement and checking to gain a symbolic sense of control. When your mind spins on its own and you cannot control the thoughts (also known as "snapping out of it") you can get quite depressed. *Officially* OCD/Depression Glad to know that others like you understand the ritualistic and ruminative way that we think and live. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I can tell you that the grass is NOT greener on the other side You are more than welcome to come stay with me for a few days to see how imperfect I am. Yesterday was a very good day for me, today I was climbing the walls with anxiety because of scary physical symptoms. I could not believe the freak out mode I was in for a few hours. I had lots of shopping and errands to do but didn`t feel like it because of the anxiety and physical symptoms. I made myself go and had no problems. I have good days, not-so-good days…. and those nightmarish days. Paxil and CBT have given me my life back. However, I still have lots to work on. As of now, I cannot travel, the thought of sleeping away from home is terrifying. Driving far by myself has improved tremendously. My safe zone is expanding by the week, but I still have lots of room for improvement.
Thank you for your honesty and sharing. The "grass is greener" thinking is something that maybe we all go through at times. I`ve been dealing with panic disorder & agoraphobia since 1981. I`ve lost much because of it, a career, friends, my self-esteem, etc. I`ve missed much because of it, weddings, birthdays, parties, get-togethers, holidays, doctor battled suicidal ideation for years and dealt with panic everyday, often times having numerous panic attacks a day. I couldn`t even escape by sleeping because often times an hour or two after dozing off, I would be assaulted by a nocturnal panic attack. At my worst, I couldn`t have people over, I couldn`t talk on the phone. At times, panic disorder and agoraphobia is a living hell….
I knew a young lady with it who traveled with her "safe person." I perfectly understand, at least visually, the experience. other times, like now, it is annoying, inconvenient and unpredictable. I do empathize with everything you are going through right now. I even sent you an e-mail last week. I don`t know if you ever received it? If you didn`t, I could resend it. If there is anything we can do to help you, just ask and we`ll do our best. (((((Marie)))))
Thanks Jackie, for sharing. I did get the email and thank you for it, but cannot reply for some strange reason, probably the server name or code or whatever for outging email is set up wrong. A lot of posters here (unintentionally) give me the impression that life is hunky-dory with Panic Disorder. Hence the "grass is greener" mode. Sorry. : ( — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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I’m so sorry you feel out of place here, Marie. I hope we didn’t give you that impression. I also don’t know exactly what you have except OCD from reading your post. I have OCD too, but other disorders also. :-) I hope you at least feel safe with us. We’re here any time you need to talk or vent. Can I ask what other disorders you have? I’m hoping I can help even if it’s in a small way. {{{{{Marie}}}}} Di
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions. Well, back to work….
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I’m sure, if you were to talk to all on here, that you would soon learn that it isn’t a case of just having a panic attack every month or two. Some of us know what it’s like to have terrifying, numbing panic for hours on end, over and over again throughout the day and night, feeling that you are about to die or go completely insane. And when someone suffers that kind of panic, a Xanax or two doesn’t always help. Or it may help for a while, but then you’re always waiting in dread for the next panic attack to come. No, Panic Disorder isn’t easy.
I know it must not be. It was just a moment of stinking thinking that took over. Thanks for sharing. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Hello Marie and welcome. Just having those moments of depression…last July I was a "normie." No anxiety, no depression, and no obsessive/racing thoughts for nine years, and no depression before ever. I’m still working as before, but the excitement I used to have isn’t there, at least not like it used to be. I also feel out of place here–bigtime. Folks talk about panic disorder and panic attacks, but everything else seems perfect in their lives. All they seem to worry about are panic attacks, and I’m thinking, "How easy they have it." They have a panic attack every month or two, that’s all. All they need is some Xanax and it’s over.
I think you’ll find that people here suffer from all different kinds of ailments, including depression. I also think that you’re right to say that "everything else seems perfect in their lives", but that may just be an impression given by the posts that appear. Some of us have had these conditions a very long time and we’ve learned to adapt, accept and cope to some degree with them. Don’t think for one moment that living with Panic Disorder is easy. It can be a daily struggle, but if we just dwelt on the condition life would be pretty miserable. So here you have the lot. A place to share triumphs and disasters with people who understand and care. A place to share thoughts and experiences of all kinds, not just related to illnesses. Sometimes it’s good just to chat about gardening or the weather or particle physics – whatever takes people’s interest. It’s called distraction and is one of many tools used to help people who have terrible problems think about something else for a while, to interact with other human beings and, in some cases, escape the four walls that have become their prison. I’m sure, if you were to talk to all on here, that you would soon learn that it isn’t a case of just having a panic attack every month or two. Some of us know what it’s like to have terrifying, numbing panic for hours on end, over and over again throughout the day and night, feeling that you are about to die or go completely insane. And when someone suffers that kind of panic, a Xanax or two doesn’t always help. Or it may help for a while, but then you’re always waiting in dread for the next panic attack to come. No, Panic Disorder isn’t easy. And neither is depression. It’s a condition that appears to be outside your control. It appears to possess you. I’ve had bouts of depression in the past and have always found it to respond well to medication (Dothiepin in my case). But, like Panic Disorder, depression comes in several types and intensities and what works for one doesn’t for someone else. I can’t talk with any authority on Depression, but I’m sure there are others here who can and will be willing to share their thoughts on it. Well, I don’t have Panic Disorder. There’s only one support group near where I live, and it’s a Panic Disorder group. Panic Disorder just seems so much easier to deal with or so I think. None of my employees nor my fellow business folks have a clue. Friends have no clue. Husband tries but has no clue. My family members have no clue. Mom had Agoraphobia and a phobia of choking for two years (no depression), but that was decades ago.
No, you have to be a sufferer to understand it, which is why I don’t feel qualified to give you advice other than to seek medical help from your doctor. Sorry for the rant. I don’t express myself well emotionally. Just need a little encouragement because I am one of the oddballs. I don’t want to go to the OCD boards because it reinforces the obsessive thoughts and compulsions.
You’re doing fine. I am sorry you’re suffering with this and truly hope that you get some helpful advice from this group. I’m sure you will. Just remember that however dark it appears at the moment, there is always hope, and these things don’t usually last forever. Well, back to work….
Take care and come and ask about whatever you want anytime. Or just chat. We’re a friendly bunch. Steve. — The charter is available at: http://readystump.algebra.com/~asapm
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Is Zomig the only med that works for you? 